How do you deal with sluggish tanks?

[Nadirah]

found this post in some old thread and I hope I meet tanks like this more often.

Typically the tanks I find that do that in low level dungeons can't hold threat for shit and are squishy as all get out.

I hate speedruns.

And pulling for me will get you killed unless I said to. Letting you tank it when you spank it is no more trolling than you spanking it when you're not supposed to.

[Exu83]

Tanks don't set the pace all the time.

Say that again after they leave your group because some impatient fool decided to pull for them.
You wait in queue until we decide to join the pool. We set the pace. Deal with it.

[Zarckd]

If you're a summoner, you can simply summon Titan and do all of the pulls yourself, allowing the tank no time to sit and ponder. As a bonus, this sometimes humiliates them into leaving, which allows you to pick up someone less lazy.

this is the saddest thing i ever read... and people like you maybe still QQ for the lack of tanks. a lot of superman's in this topic need to try tanking something with ppl like them,maybe they will understand how bad is the tank life these days.

[Twilite]

Say that again after they leave your group because some impatient fool decided to pull for them.
You wait in queue until we decide to join the pool. We set the pace. Deal with it.

LOL leave it to someone like you take what I said the wrong way. I deal with it because I do not try to boss a tank around. I don't give a damn how a tank pulls, just don't pull more than you can handle. I've tanked a lot myself. And I have heard stories from other tanks on them being kicked because they wouldn't pull the way the others wanted them too. I hate speed running, it is exactly why I gave up WAR at 59. And once again, no tanks do not always set the pace. You can argue with me about that til your blue in the face. Group with me though and yes you do set the pace. For any other group out there with 3 others that are holier than thou, good luck. Leaving doesn't mean anything either.

[Evangela]

We can find a new tank in less than 3 minutes. Some tanks still think that they're so rare and special. They're wrong.

[CGMidlander]

Sorry disagree with you on this. If you pull it without waiting for a tank first, then you can die and get the trip back to the beginning of the dungeon. Only time I will intervene is if the healer tries to heal them. Other than that, well take the lesson and learn from it. And if I get kicked for being a "troll" as you call it, then so be it. If anything the DPS ought to be kicked for the same reason.

If a DPS tries doing that while I'm tanking, I rip hate from them immediately and we carry on without wasting time feeling smug over petty nonsense.

That rarely happens though, because I mostly do large pulls; there usually isn't anything ahead for DPS to pull, even if they wanted to.

[Subucnimorning]

If a DPS tries doing that while I'm tanking, I rip hate from them immediately and we carry on without wasting time feeling smug over petty nonsense.

That rarely happens though, because I mostly do large pulls; there usually isn't anything ahead for DPS to pull, even if they wanted to.

Agree with this, although I will never pull ahead of the tank to me it is ridiculous to waste everyone's time in the group by sitting there doing nothing on purpose to try to teach that person a "lesson".

[Leonus]

If a DPS tries doing that while I'm tanking, I rip hate from them immediately and we carry on without wasting time feeling smug over petty nonsense.

That rarely happens though, because I mostly do large pulls; there usually isn't anything ahead for DPS to pull, even if they wanted to.

That happened once to me, facepulled on accident and the tank let me die. I went back to the beginning and waited there until they were done killing the pack of mobs. They asked me why I didn't come back until after the group was dead, I told them, "the tank let me die on purpose" I obviously wasn't needed for that group of mobs, so I let you three kill them."

Tank wasn't very happy about getting a lesson, while trying to teach a lesson. What made it all the better was the tank died on the last mob.

[Kazumac]

I love prima donna tanks who won't pick up aggro at all if someone even accidentally pulls a mob and start giving the group attitude. I will just say that if they don't want to tank, they can leave or they can get kicked, I have a full FC/LS who would love to come enjoy an in progress que. If a dps is just constantly pulling and it's making the pulls messy etc. A similar response is in order.

To the OP's topic just talk to the tank. Some are hesitant, some aren't yet comfortable and it's better to engage them and see if they don't mind trying more or if they have a legitimate reason to go a bit slower. If the only issue in the dungeon is a slower than average pull speed, I count me DF blessings and just roll with it.

[bounddreamer]

Just to get back to the original topic....how do I deal with sluggish tanks? When I'm not tanking, as a dps, I dps the shit out of those mobs. I dance or talk to party members during downtime. And I wait to use cooldowns until after the pull, because why risk losing them if they might not be used?

I know everyone likes to cite their precious time for not wanting slow runs, but if I'm not tanking, I already know going in that I've signed up to go at the tank's pace. And, if for whatever reason, they're not going as fast as I might like, I'm just gonna focus on my role and doing the best job I can as dps.