How do you deal with sluggish tanks?

[NasirILL]

Really? Seems to me alot of the tanks in this game are in a huge rush for some reason.

[StouterTaru]

Really? Seems to me alot of the tanks in this game are in a huge rush for some reason.

I'm in a rush because the 5 stacks of Wrath I built up at the end of the last encounter for the next pull wear after 30 seconds.

If I'm waiting at a boss it's because someone is new or not in the arena yet.

[Hayward]

You know what's annoying? Gun-jumping DPS getting themselves (and others) killed needlessly because they didn't take their Ritalin and can't sit still for 30 seconds.

[MuzakFan]

Tank here. I’ll tell you exactly why I wait before pulling the next pack, boss, or minboss.

I don't know what's their problem. like 80% of the tanks I met are super slow and keep wasting time before each pull

I know you can’t see my TP if on WAR, but I use a lot of it getting AoE threat on all those mobs in a group, gathering them up for you to kill. And until level 58 when I get Equilibrium, there’s no way for me to restore it on my own besides waiting a few seconds before the next pull (and even then, I have to be in DPS stance to get a mere 200 TP back). If you want to help me out, give me Goad if on NIN or play a song between pulls on BRD.

Same deal with Dark Knight and MP. If Blood Price isn’t up and I’m not getting hit from multiple sources, it restores very slowly. I sometimes need to turn off Darkside and let the out of combat mana regen a few ticks before turning it on again. Because I certainly don’t want to pull the next pack while OoM and let the pack stampede over you or the healer.

I don't know what's their problem. like 80% of the tanks I met are super slow and keep wasting time before each pull, then waste another minute standing infront of the boss. sometimes 3 minutes if it's the last boss. always waste time until my buffs disappear.

I don't necessarily agree with ready checks being annoying but certainly standing in front of bosses for 30+ seconds doing nothing has always annoyed me in all MMO's and I just don't understand what they can be doing.

Ok, 3 minutes I can understand, but you should reevaluate some priorities if a mere 30s before a boss pull is that annoying to you. There’s several reasons for me to wait:

• Make sure everyone is over the blue line or close to it so no one is locked out of the fight. I’ve had it happen more often than I’d like that me or someone else pulls the boss, the blue wall comes up but someone else wasn’t paying attention or just too far away and then they can’t help at all. Running at 75% DPS efficiency for a fight, or wiping prematurely because your healer isn’t there, takes a LOT longer than just making sure everyone is present. Ready checks aren’t usually necessary as long as you can see everyone else’s character is moving around. I only do a ready check if someone has returned after an announced AFK in party chat.
  
• Gives a chance for the healer to apply buffs (Protect, Stoneskin, Succor/Adlo, Card Draw, etc). If you have ever healed anything in this game you should know how annoying it is for a tank or DPS to go rocketing off at the start before you can even say hello or cast Protect.
  
• In the cases where someone is new to a duty, gives me or someone else a small moment to quickly explain the vital mechanics of the fight to them. Again, wiping because not everyone is fully on board with the goal of the duty takes a lot longer than your precious 30s I spent increasing our chance of success.
  
• One of the responsibilities/benefits of tanking is that YOU set the pace of the fight. And unfortunately, you can’t please everyone. What is too slow for a DPS may be too fast for the healer, or vice versa. Overall the tank needs to gauge the abilities of everyone else in the party, maximizing efficiency while preventing any death. If you’re that dissatisfied with how fast your dungeon experience is going, then I suggest you take up tanking for yourself.

[Synovius]

How do I deal with sluggish tanks as a BLM? I pull. And then if the tank just sits there after that pack is dead and complains that I should have patience, I pull the next pack too. Rinse/repeat until we're at the boss or until we get a new tank.

I don't mind tanks pulling at a leisurely pace but, largely, people don't have time to spend an entire hour on a single dungeon that can be completed in 20 minutes.

[MirielleLavandre]

How do I deal with sluggish tanks as a BLM? I pull. And then if the tank just sits there after that pack is dead and complains that I should have patience, I pull the next pack too. Rinse/repeat until we're at the boss or until we get a new tank.

As a healer, if a dps pulls like that I'd expect them to have some way of healing themselves, though in actuality I'd just wait for them to die. I used to be the 'nice' healer that would heal anyone, even if they did things like this that just are not contributive to party cooperation. Now - nah, if you have so much confidence to pull, you must have some super secret way of keeping yourself alive without the aid of the rest of the party. This is why people don't want to tank or just tank for friends.

[VisRalis]

How do I deal with sluggish tanks as a BLM? I pull. And then if the tank just sits there after that pack is dead and complains that I should have patience, I pull the next pack too. Rinse/repeat until we're at the boss or until we get a new tank.

I don't mind tanks pulling at a leisurely pace but, largely, people don't have time to spend an entire hour on a single dungeon that can be completed in 20 minutes.

Had a JP player like that.
"You pull - you deal with it"
BLM got wrecked and QQ-left before could dismiss.
Good riddance.

[broren]

how do you deal with sluggish tanks? ...tank yourself. set your own pace. profit.

[OpticOcelot]

You know what's annoying? Gun-jumping DPS getting themselves (and others) killed needlessly because they didn't take their Ritalin and can't sit still for 30 seconds.

If i could like this twice.. lol

[Sleigh]

Usually tanks who wait for a pull are waiting for something quite tangible, like healer MP, someone to catch up or watch their cutscene, or perhaps a personal CD (Fight or Flight or Berserk perhaps) about to come off cooldown so they'll have more damage/aggro.

There are definitely slowpokes out there but in endgame I usually find they have a reason for delays.