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    Bard 60 Rotation / How to use WM Suggestions?

    Ok guys so all there seems to be is crying about how SE has broken Bards with WM but since its not going to disappear I guess we just have to deal with it ( Either use it or don't) for those that are using WM just wondering what's your rotation your using / situation. I've been trying to work out how to add it into my rotation since well we have 2 moves that we've been given that connects to it and seems a shame not to use them at all and just stick to old rotation with sidewinder added in.
    (Before rage just so you know I don't really like WM but will be trying to use it either way)
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    So far all ive managed to come up with is start fight with WM off
    then:
    Straight shot>Blood for blood>Internal Release>Wind bite>Flaming Arrow>Venomous Bite>Wanderer's Minuet>Empyreal Arrow>Sidewinder>Heavy shot>Blood Letter>then just go into a priority rotation from then on and use iron jaws when wind bite gets to 3 sec to allow for delay or any lag, if I need to move or its a boss that requires a lot of movement I just switch off and start rotation from beginning when its not as movement heavy..
    Don't know how good this rotation is as ps4 can't have a parser
    Any that have tested your own rotation with parser, feedback on how it would be great
    Also all I've tested this on is dummy / The Fractal Continuum
    Haven't tried WM in Ex's yet if you have give us a yell on how it went
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    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

    I still use this old opener but of course empyreal arrow used with barrage. My dummy parses look terrible though. with no pots,food,party,drg or miseries end I get like 850 with ilvl 177 and hive bow. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've heard of ppl getting 1k+ at the dummy and I'd love it if those people could maybe offer advice.
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    Out of curiosity why are you not starting your rotation with WM already turned on? Also one obvious thing is use BA>EA not just EA within our starting rotation.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

    I still use this old opener but of course empyreal arrow used with barrage. My dummy parses look terrible though. with no pots,food,party,drg or miseries end I get like 850 with ilvl 177 and hive bow. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've heard of ppl getting 1k+ at the dummy and I'd love it if those people could maybe offer advice.
    if 1K 3mins I am pretty certain it has party/food/pot/drg or just drg buff

    3mins refers to 3mins sharp right before all your buffs are about to be aligned again - parses ending 3:30 are usually pushed upwards at the end because of a big round of burst past 3mins mark.

    Nonetheless after the WM changes, 3mins parses with Hive Bow and IL anywhere from 175-180 should easily cross you over the 900 mark with no party/food/pot/drg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorii View Post
    Straight shot>Blood for blood>Internal Release>Wind bite>Flaming Arrow>Venomous Bite>Wanderer's Minuet>Empyreal Arrow>Sidewinder>Heavy shot>Blood Letter>then just go into a priority rotation
    EA is kind of ofcd ability, so it should be be inbetween gcd abilities (unless there is a barrage)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    if 1K 3mins I am pretty certain it has party/food/pot/drg or just drg buff

    3mins refers to 3mins sharp right before all your buffs are about to be aligned again - parses ending 3:30 are usually pushed upwards at the end because of a big round of burst past 3mins mark.

    Nonetheless after the WM changes, 3mins parses with Hive Bow and IL anywhere from 175-180 should easily cross you over the 900 mark with no party/food/pot/drg
    I'm doing something very wrong then, coz I'm not breaking 900 solo/no pots/no food/no miseries/no drg >< it's like 870 at best( hive bow,ilvl 177 )
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    I can't use WM after my opener in fights without losing dps still. I'd love to hear from a good bard on how they use this song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    I can't use WM after my opener in fights without losing dps still. I'd love to hear from a good bard on how they use this song.
    I consider myself one of the top bards I have at least seen on Behemoth. There are better ones though but not many. :P

    Anyways the way I have started using WM since patch:

    WM is on open with Foe Requiem battle voiced. SS -> BL -> HS -> IR -> WB -> RS -> VA -> HE -> SS(most likely) -> B4B -> IJ -> Barrage -> EA -> SW (repeat rotation or turn of WM if movement coming and go back to 2.X rotation). It's hard to say bard has a rotation besides a standard opening pattern since bard is generally reactionary and OGCD management.

    Part of the glaring issues with WM now as well is that it makes BL procs really inefficient. Since we can only weave 1 OGCD in now as opposed to 2 pre-3.0 it makes it really difficult to set up your buffs and not waste any potential BL procs you get without wasting GCD time. So ya that opener takes a while and any BL procs kind of shake it up some but it's definitely important to use them when you get them.
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    Last edited by LLamaPie; 07-08-2015 at 10:49 PM.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._new_rotation/

    If you scroll down the page you'll see a guy giving an interesting opener. Doesn't have wm on from the start. Also provides parses 1k+ in alex turns.
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