How potent is Asylum?

[Eisenhower]

Of all the new WHM abilities, Asylum is definitely the weakest. [...] Changing it to be a "spell" would do wonders [...]

I argue vehemently against a potential change from ability to spell. Unless I'm mistaken, the current abilities also ignore healing debuffs, which is a tool I'd rather keep. Besides, the new abilities can be used practically all the time in dungeons. They have low cooldowns and spend no resources, further improving the white mage's mana efficiency.

At every point you'd be able to Assize something in the face, you can drop Asylum to reduce the number of regens or cures you need to place on the party. At 800 potency over 24 seconds, it's weaker than Regen (1050 over 21s) but stronger than Medica II (200 + 500 over 30s) assuming no crits and party members stay inside. If they don't, no mana have been spent anyway and now there's a reason to berate your fellow players.

[MXMoondoggie]

For what it is the healing should be stronger or it should have some other benefit to it like reduced damage it's a skill that can only be used on one area mostly used on the Tank but it's not really doing anything to help anyone except top up other regen spells a tiny bit.

[Libellule]

I argue vehemently against a potential change from ability to spell. Unless I'm mistaken, the current abilities also ignore healing debuffs, which is a tool I'd rather keep.

i confirm ^^ they are not impacted by debuff heal, and that a realy realy nice thing ^^

[Rox_Unlimited]

I find asylum extremely useful. Run Ravanna extreme with a few melee DPS, you can keep them healed and in case they hit his shield you can focus on blessing their slow debuff of focus on healing the tank. Let alone you can also drop it with a regen and go cleric to help out with the DPS checks. Another example I find it useful is on Bismarck's back, it allows you to heal the DoT before the next one hits with out having to use MP to heal. Remeber the new abilities other then Tetra are useful for the time you just don't want to spend MP or stay in Cleric for a minute like a scholar to help DPS.

[Kelya]

It is probably the worst out of all the new WHM abilities. Asylum is not that good since the HoT is considerably weak and seems to proc slowly (compared to Regen/Medica II). However, it is useful since it costs zero MP and has a decent recast timer.

It doesn't proc slowly and it's not even weaker than Medica 2. I counted a tick every 3s, like regen & Medica 2. And I can't agree with you saying it's the worst new WHM abilities.

Asylum in 15s heals as much as the regen of Medica 2 in 30s, because Asylum last half the time of Medica 2 but is twice powerful (100 potency vs 50). Then, 9s of Asylum left such as the basis pure heal of Medica 2.

Medica 2 pure heal is for me at ilvl183 around 1420.

Asylum ticking 3 times in these 9s left is, for me at same ilvl, around 720 x 3 = 2160.

So the totale difference between Asylum and Medica 2 is that Asylum heals for around 650-750 HP more.

Conclusion 1 : yes it is weaker than regen, but it is overall as potent as Medica 2 and compared to the Aspected benefic of the AST (same potency and lasts 18s) Asylum is also slightly better.

Conclusion 2 : whenever a mechanic demands the potency of a Medica 2 and you can Asylum instead (the raid isn't too spread, ect), just do it and save MP.

[SovereignAegis]

It stacks with regen, medica 2 HoT and them all combined is a healthy dose of HoT.

And by healthy I mean huge.

Oh and it stacks with AST HoT's too.

Now think about that.


If a large amount of spaced out "tiny damage" ... like think about 1,000 tiny hits spaced over the course of 10 seconds... this HoT combination could be huge in migrating the need to pull out big heals.


Either way I am confident that there are many situations in which stacking HoT effects can be super effective.

[416to305]

I think it's a great ability, people shouldn't complain. Would you prefer that instead they gave us something like Disable from AST?

[Verdan]

You really can't complain about a mana free 800 potency aoe hot.

[Ghishlain]

Asylum ticks for 2/3s the power of your Regen though cannot be affected by healing boosting abilities like Defiance, Divine Seal, Fey Illumination, etc.

With that being said, I find Asylum to be highly potent. A free 800 potency cure over the course of 24 seconds to anyone who's within it is very useful. I do wish it had a bigger radius, but if placed properly, players can move appropriately while still remaining within the bubble. As some BLMs have mentioned, put your Ley Lines down, and sit on an edge of the circle. Then dodge to the other edge so you can still be within the Ley Lines. Asylum can work in the exact same way.

For me, Asylum is just another Divine Seal + Regen that's more bursty, since you're getting a 250 potency / tick per heal for 24 seconds with Asylum + Regen versus a 195 potency / tick heal that actually lasts approximately 36 seconds with Regen + Dive Seal.

[Nadirah]

Hey, someone else mentioned it. Every time I see that word...

And when I see Asylum I don't think of pretty domes either. ><