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  1. #11
    Player
    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    I could possibly stand behind a scheme that gives reduced rates (not zero) for moving from the top 10% populated worlds to the bottom 10% populated worlds, but even then with restrictions...
    Like if the difference between the top and average, and the bottom and average is low (good spread of populations), no reduced rates would apply at all.
    The issue is that individuals don't want to leave. They have free companies. They have friends.

    You need a means of encouraging entire chunks to leave in a group - a whole Free Company to be willing to go to greener pastures where they have a shot at buying a house, for example. There is going to be hassle involved no matter what, but making it free turns it into a reasonable option finally.

    I do agree that any free transfers would need to be to only a handful of worlds where the population is not an issue. SE has the internal data for that.
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  2. #12
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    perpetually full realms such as Balmung and Sargatanas?
    The problem and putting even more players on it would make it worse.

    Do you want 24.7 queues to get on. I'm guessing not. What they should do is offer free transfers off of the high pop servers.
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  3. #13
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Well my friend could not get in even at 6AM after the maintenance so you are literally preventing him from playing the game with people they know. Im guessing Balmung and Sargatanas are on permanent lockdown? Strange how throwing money at that changes it. Since free trials aren't even able to transfer I have no idea what to do about it. If you've already entered your full game code can you transfer while in a trial?
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  4. #14
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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Well my friend could not get in even at 6AM after the maintenance so you are literally preventing him from playing the game with people they know. Im guessing Balmung and Sargatanas are on permanent lockdown? Strange how throwing money at that changes it. Since free trials aren't even able to transfer I have no idea what to do about it. If you've already entered your full game code can you transfer while in a trial?
    Throwing money on it works, because the VAST majority of those people who want to play on a full server, most of the time their only reason being: "HERPA DERP! Biggest server = BEST!", won't throw money on it.

    A few new characters won't break the server, thousands of them (which would be the case if the servers were open), could.
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  5. #15
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    Sanja Sinai
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    For the record, you cannot transfer a character to a closed realm unless it reopens. So even if you give Square your money, you cannot go to Balmung unless you can also create characters there.

    I've seen Sarg open off and on right after maint and between the hours of 3-6am, but I have never once seen Balmung open after the expansion. Is that the player's choice? What if all of their friends play on that server, as mine do? There's no battle tag system like Warcraft and no guesting system like GW2 and no megaserver system like ESO, so we're just... stuck playing without the people we want to play with?

    It's easy for someone on the server of their choice to decry any suggested changes made to the system, sure, but new players and returning players who want to move are just... unsubbing or not subbing after their trial account at all.
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  6. #16
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Then there absolutely must be a system implemented for transferring off of the full realms and I will not stop until it is addressed. I understand that Balmung/Sargatanas are large. I didn't pick them because they are large, they are comprised of my original 1.0 realm where everyone I know played. I don't exactly have a choice unless they expect hundreds of people to all of a sudden pay for a transfer or offer a FC transfer service. The new people I invite and others invite literally physically cannot play with us by any means and if that isn't a problem I don't know what is. The staff also doesn't seem to be very vocal about addressing it, and theres no means of redress for directly talking to staff in or out of game.
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  7. #17
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    *snip*
    Sadly, basically the only viable solution is to offer free transfer from crowded servers to "empty" servers.
    But the gain from doing this is very debatable.
    People with an FC won't switch.
    People with friends in an FC won't switch.
    A lot of people just might not care.

    Basically the only type that will switch is people who have no connection on their current server, AND want to play with a friend who is just starting.
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  8. #18
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Then they should at the very least allow for affordable Free Company transfers.
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  9. #19
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Then they should at the very least allow for affordable Free Company transfers.
    Which makes a simple and feasible solution (free player transfer) into a GIANT and most likely unfeasible solution (FC transfer).
    So yeah.
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  10. #20
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    TinyMonster's Avatar
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    Soushie Monster
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    The issue is that individuals don't want to leave. They have free companies. They have friends.

    You need a means of encouraging entire chunks to leave in a group - a whole Free Company to be willing to go to greener pastures where they have a shot at buying a house, for example. There is going to be hassle involved no matter what, but making it free turns it into a reasonable option finally.

    I do agree that any free transfers would need to be to only a handful of worlds where the population is not an issue. SE has the internal data for that.
    It would also be easier for people that have Mansions to transfer their houses over or sell them! Right now, we all want to move but we are stuck cause we dont have the time or means to buy another Mansion all over again...
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