Bard qq

[Viar]

I giggle every time i see people complain "managing ogcd skills"

I'll have a giggle, thank you. Let's count them:

1. Bloodletter/RoD. (15 sec recast, random Rivers of Blood procs)
2. Blunt Arrow. (30 sec recast)
3. Repelling Shot. (30 sec recast)
4. Flaming Arrow. (1 min recast)
5. Empyreal Arrow. (15 sec recast, affected by SkS)
6. Sidewinder. (1 min recast)
7. Misery's End. (12 sec recast)

Not 3 off-GCD, eh? Let's add 5 more on top of that and a dex-pot.

Bloodletter has been macro'd into Heavy Shot since level 15

Oh, a troll, I see.

If you cannot manage to fit 3 oGCDs around a 1.5 second cast with a 2.5 second recast, the problem certainly isn't Minuet.

Sigh, opinion discarded.

[MrYaah]

I giggle every time i see people complain "managing ogcd skills"
We have 3.
Count them, THREE. One has a 1 minute cooldown, the other 2 are 15 seconds. (Bloodletter shares recast with RoD, so not 2 separate skills)

Bloodletter has been macro'd into Heavy Shot since level 15, Empy Arrow slots neatly between any cast and RoF can be thrown down whenever i want.

If you cannot manage to fit 3 oGCDs around a 1.5 second cast with a 2.5 second recast, the problem certainly isn't Minuet.

I laughed at this one, counting BL as a 15 second cooldown tells me you either dont use dots or dont really understand bard. I just did the math and its 9.9 seconds on average at 25% critrate. Also its an rng proc ogcd so you can get "unlucky" and get a string of them that normally would be a blessing except you can be forced to not use them because it would fuck your rotation which is really really really frustraiting.

[Miah_Dakwhil]

I laughed at this one, counting BL as a 15 second cooldown tells me you either dont use dots or dont really understand bard. I just did the math and its 9.9 seconds on average at 25% critrate. Also its an rng proc ogcd so you can get "unlucky" and get a string of them that normally would be a blessing except you can be forced to not use them because it would fuck your rotation which is really really really frustraiting.

Had this happen last night.. hit BL then SS, just as i hit SS, BL proc, then proc again during the cast bar. smh;fml

[Velhart]

[DinahDemiurge]

This is how I feel.

[Nadirah]

Only solution I can see is allow ogcd ability use while casting.

Though if they allow it for bard they need to allow it for everyone and for some classes that'd be broke as shit.

[Typhoria]

Imo, they should have kept the MW/GB theme only to MCH. New class new mechanic while the bard getting its own thing. They could have just added in a fairly strict buff/debuff priority rotation and it would have been great.

[RiceisNice]

Imo, they should have kept the MW/GB theme only to MCH. New class new mechanic while the bard getting its own thing. They could have just added in a fairly strict buff/debuff priority rotation and it would have been great.

Honestly this was the vibe I was getting when they announced machinist and the concept of using different barrels. It seems really repetitive to give abilities with same concepts to both classes, espesically when one of them was not designed with it in mind (and the other was). I for the life of me cannot stand playing my bard with WM, esp when I keep seeing all those BL resets wasted and cringe when I see straighter shot procs half way into my next heavy shot cast.

[Aiselia]

Honestly this was the vibe I was getting when they announced machinist and the concept of using different barrels. It seems really repetitive to give abilities with same concepts to both classes, espesically when one of them was not designed with it in mind (and the other was). I for the life of me cannot stand playing my bard with WM, esp when I keep seeing all those BL resets wasted and cringe when I see straighter shot procs half way into my next heavy shot cast.

Or even worse (for me, anyways), seeing Straighter Shot procs halfway through casting Straight Shot because it was already casting by the time the animation finished and it decided to proc.

[Kaith]

We have 11 oGCD's.

1. Bloodletter (15 Secs / Proc Resets)
2. Blunt Arrow (30 Secs)
3. Repelling Shot (30 Secs / WM makes this hard to keep on CD)
4. Sidewinder (60 Secs)
5. Internal Release (60 Secs)
6. Flaming Arrow (60 Secs)
7. Blood for Blood (80 Secs)
8. Hawkeye (90 Secs)
9. Barrage (90 Secs)
10. Raging Strikes (120 Secs)
11. Misery's End (12 Secs when applicable)

If Miserys End is in play, you have 36 oGCDs to fit in during a 2 minute buff cycle (That's 90 seconds worth of oGCD / 75% of the time). If it is not in play you have 26 (65 seconds / 54% of the cycle).

This does not include any Bloodletter resets, singing, movement, etc. This is purely if you are stood stationary unimpeded with no BL procs.

Saying they are on macro so a non-issue is nonsensical. It's detrimental to the cycle because if you pop a buff and then pop your Heavy Shot macro which fires Bloodletter first, that's a DPS loss as its 2 oGCDs between 1 GCD