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  1. #51
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    CrimsonOrion's Avatar
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    Kensik Scorpius
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    As a BLM main, I feel the pain of my fellow BLMs (Neverreap... *shutter*). With that in mind, I'd only like 1 change. Kill the interrupt of Fire IV/Bliz IV if Enochian ends. Just let the spell finish. That alone will be a lifesaver for me and, I'm sure, a lot of other BLM.

    As far as the rotation, you only need to refresh Eco 2x before you can recast it again. That's not a big deal to me as that's when I usually recast LL if its up and/or any Thundercloud procs I have. Just don't recast while the previous buff is still up! Bad things will happen.

    But the true heart of the matter is, is complaining on a general message board really going to do anything? Is there somewhere else we can provide constructive criticism that the devs will actually see?
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    Last edited by CrimsonOrion; 07-09-2015 at 04:49 AM.
    Darn you, XIVPads.com, for breaking my sig!!!!

  2. #52
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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NozomiKei View Post
    We do need some minor adjustments. Even something as tiny as adding 2 or 3 seconds to the duration of astral fire would make our lives more bearable playing this great class.

    Currently SE is pumping all of the fights full of AOEs which demand (as they always have) that we dodge; the problem is that we have become even more immobile with our new rotation. Before, we could fit in movement and not really lose much if any dps, now if we have to move once (or twelve forbid twice) then our rotation falls apart and we either drop enochian resulting in something like a 40% drop in dps or we miss out on crucial Fire VI casts. The number of things that can cause our rotation to collapse are many.

    For those saying things are fine, I have to question how good you are. Anyone can derp through the rotation to a degree, but actually maximizing your damage is now extremely difficult in the field.
    Don't ya love how they gave AST's Lightspeed.. the very ability that would make BLMs not suffer a 100% dps lose during movement? -_-

    Lightspeed + being able ot hold 2 charges of Firestarter (to prevent the damn double proc loss) would make BLMs much more stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  3. #53
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    Darxer's Avatar
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    Darx Zap
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    BLMs need fixing...?


    w-wha.. O_O;

    you probably think "OMG TOO MANY NEW BUFFS/SPELLS PLS I NEED IT SIMPLE"


    yeaaaaaaaaaaahno.
    What a useful and constructive post. All you people saying "BLM is fine" need to stop pretending to be tough guys. There ARE issues with the job that can very EASILY BE FIXED. These are quality of life issues, the job is overly punishing for movement and interruptions. Movement used to be just an inconvenience and a challenge, now it's extremely punishing.

    -A current cast of F4 and B4 are cancelled if Enochian falls off (costing several seconds of zero dps aka punishing)
    -F1 costs more MP than F4, meaning if you have to move, you have to cast F1 to keep up AF3, costing more MP and removing a F4 from the rotation (punishing dps)
    -Thundercloud procs are very often wasted, as there is not enough time in the enochian rotation
    -Firestarter procs are often wasted, not enough time in enochian rotation

    These can all be fixed with this:
    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    You should check out the DPS Class Section and not the General Discussion section. There you will find a ton of thread about QoL changes for the BLM. There's a ton that can be done in order to make the class more efficient with out making it OP.

    -extending the timer for Umbral Ice and Astral Fire would greatly fix some issues.
    -Allowing us to finish our cast of Blizzard 4/Fire 4 if we are mid cast when Enochian or Umbral Ice/Astral Fire falls off instead of just cancelling the cast all together.

    That's pretty much it. Would completely fix the class. No damage buffs needed. No other things to be changed. Just 2 simple things.
    For the several people dissing my skills and telling me to L2P. I raid at the highest level on BLM (T13 farm pre-echo), always have, and can easily maintain 900-1100 dps on current encounters. I play the class well, and I can admit the downfalls of the job. You people really need to grow up and be constructive.
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  4. #54
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Psycofang and Darxer nailed it on the head. Our damage per spell is fine. Nobody is asking for Fire/Blizzard to have increased damage. We need a bit of fine tuning to accommodate for dodging. Personally, I'm with KyteStones. An increase in Astral Fire/Umbral Ice time would solve many of the current QoL issues.
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  5. #55
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Darxer View Post
    For the several people dissing my skills and telling me to L2P. I raid at the highest level on BLM (T13 farm pre-echo), always have, and can easily maintain 900-1100 dps on current encounters. I play the class well, and I can admit the downfalls of the job. You people really need to grow up and be constructive.
    Yet you whine and complain in this thread about encounters because the new ones require you to move and pay attention a lot more. You could always betray to MCH or Bard.

    I would just make Surecast not interrupt you like it says it should. Which would make it not interrupt casting when you move.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 07-09-2015 at 05:10 AM.

  6. #56
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    NozomiKei's Avatar
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    Nozomi Kay
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir View Post
    I don't have BLM60 [...] Everytime there's a phase shift and about half the time that a boss's AOE forces me out of attack range, my BotD drops and I can wave goodbye to about 10% of my damage output. I'd suggest that instead of complaining about how "hard" your job is, you learn to do it better and maximize what you can do given the restrictions of the fight you're in.These things are called "mechanics," and it's your job to learn to deal with them: not SE's job to make it easier for you.
    Pretty much invalidated your own post from the start...

    Well we lose about 40% of our dps, so yeah.

    What do you think that we just hit 60 said "Oh no this is too hard, Waaaaa!" and then stopped playing the job? We are "maximizing what we can do given the restrictions of the fight we're in" and dealing with it. It actually is SE's job to handle aspects of this game like balancing.

    And moving on past your post. Before 60 I was extremely good at avoiding taking unnecessary damage so it kills me now that I occasionally just have to take a hit to the face in the name of Enochian. I do my best to warn my healer when I'm on ts with them so they aren't blindsided by the dps' health dropping to 20%, but I can't do much for pugs. : (
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  7. #57
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    Neuflune Mochiko
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    Carbuncle
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    As main Blm,I don't think we need any fixed.With all these new skills we can add a lot of tricks into our basic rotation,Just be creative about using skills , Know when to move , Know when not to move.Blm/Smn are Artist of the battlefield after all.
    ^ This.

    I have Baha-buff on, I am targeted by massive AOE of doom... move and lose DPS or take the hit while praying to the Twelve?

    I move, of course.
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    Last edited by Neuflune; 07-09-2015 at 05:42 AM.

  8. #58
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    Anavi Anael
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    One thing that occurred to me that non BLMs may not realize: Blizzard IV and Fire IV do NOT give you stacks of Astral Fire/Umbral Ice.
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  9. #59
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuflune View Post
    ^ This.

    I have Baha-buff on, I am targeted by massive AOE of doom... move and lose DPS or take the hit while praying to the Twelve?

    I move, of course.
    So why would you be against having a more forgiving timer and more room to act outside?
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  10. #60
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    Darxer's Avatar
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    Darx Zap
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yet you whine and complain in this thread about encounters because the new ones require you to move and pay attention a lot more. You could always betray to MCH or Bard.

    I would just make Surecast not interrupt you like it says it should. Which would make it not interrupt casting when you move.
    Please point out where I whined about an encounter. I didn't. I'm posting here to improve the job. I'm trying to help the job. I'm not here to argue like you are. Be constructive or leave.
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