Fending vs. Slaying accessories at this point in the game

[dragoelete]

no if they are stealing aggro from the tank it means they are not attacking the right enemy they should always be attacking the same enemy as the tank if they do that then even a PLD could hold aggro infinitely without a single piece of str gear (ring doesnt count cause you pretty much will always have a str ring as a tank) and even if they are useing AoE as long as there single target attacks are hitting the right enemy they will only have to use flash every 20 secs or so to keep top aggro on all enemies...

[wonka11]

DPS that draw agro in ways that are avoidable and at their own fault, therefore, is always their fault.

[rawker]

I dunno.. I don't feel comfortable seeing other party member's enmity bars to be very close to what I have. Although to be very clear, I only have 2/5 of my accessories to be slaying. If discounting the other ring, then it's down to 1. Also, I am only losing like 500-ish hp from a single slaying and only 1k hp for 2. I am also playing a healer, though not my main, and I barely see the difference of healing a tank with 1 or 2 slaying accessories. Obv, going all Slaying on your accessories is a different story.

[Myric]

If everyone else is consistently so close to a tank in threat, then that tank isn't geared for his level, keeps pulling without checking to see if regens are still on(though this can be a healers fault too sometimes), or isn't doing their rotations right. The only time you can't blame a tank for being under geared is when a fresh 50 was tanking and people had 130/135 weapons. It's the dps's job at that point to watch the hate bars and keep it throttled.

[Dement]

The people who are advocating having different sets are correct. For most trash packs and larger pulls, I would presume a tank should be in all VIT because healer DPS is going to contribute significantly more than the difference between VIT and STR speced tanks, plus the fights are going to be short and quick to the point that no one should overcome your initial aggro before most everything is dead. For bosses where many people are taking splash damage from various mechanics, I would presume a STR or hybrid speced tank would be preferable. The healer is going to have to spend more time healing splash damage and members who fail/die to mechanics and less time casting damage spells anyway while the tank is going to pretty much have 100% uptime on a boss. As long as you have enough HP to survive the tank buster of the day + the subsequent auto-attack everytime, without fail, then anything else put into VIT is a lost stat placement.

[Xenosan]

The people who are advocating having different sets are correct. For most trash packs and larger pulls, I would presume a tank should be in all VIT because healer DPS is going to contribute significantly more than the difference between VIT and STR speced tanks....

IDK so much about that second part.

I see SR 3.0 dungeons where the WAR is out DPSing SMN/MNK/NIN and almost toe-ing my DRG in those trash pulls.

Not all WARs mind you, just the ones not playing it like a PLD

[Myric]

Aggro issues can come if you want to use GB and RA on your rotation while WAR OT goes ham with full STR spec, but if you use oldschool 1-2-3 then there is never any issues but you really want to use RoH now just for STR debuff.

I do roh, GB, roh, ra, roh, GB etc and never have issuses. I'd do more ra, but like you said, gotta keep that str debuff up.

[Synestra]

I do roh, GB, roh, ra, roh, GB etc and never have issuses. I'd do more ra, but like you said, gotta keep that str debuff up.

Yeah it mostly depends on your OT buddy and their Fell Cleave crit streak, if he gets good streak then he can get dangerously close at the beginning. But atm most Alex fights OT has actually tank something so aggro is not that problematic in there.

[Dante_V]

I prefer Str acc on my tanks whether I'm playing of healing. My dps cut off changes by less than 5% if at all while healing and dpsing a tank in Str vs Vit acc. You should be switching to healing before the 1000 hp ever becomes relevant.

Also tank (str) and healer dps aren't mutually exclusive and both can occur at the same time. Saying that vit acc allows for more healing dps and in turn greater total team dps isnt a valid argument because objectively the most dps will be achieved with healer dps and Str tanks both doing increased dps. Taking away one or the other results in an opportunity cost and less dps potential.

[Lawson_Grey]

I war all STR if I'm doing something like OT Ravana EX (only coming in for Blinding Blades). I use a mix in Alex normal. I drop anything with Parry if I can as Parry kinda sucks and is entirely useless when not actively tanking.