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    Adding Tomes of Law to PvP

    Can this be a thing? I don't understand why PvP is always behind is all content in introducing tomes to this gameplay mode. It would actually encourage more people to PvP rather than dungeon running all the time for these tomes (or hunts), which are already quickly saturated.
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    It probably won't be available for the level 50 maps, but will likely be a reward for the new map alongside Esoterics. Would probably have to completely phase out Poetics before Duty Roulette: FL or Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins gets Law.
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    I am thinking this will get added in 4 weeks with the new FL map.

    In the same vein, I think the i80 den and level 50 frontlines maps should give something like 3% of your EXP bar per match for frontlines and .5% for den. This would be in line with 30/40 den which gave EXP. You used to be able to go 30-50 entirely through den, so a logical extension of that would be letting us go 50-60 as well.

    3% EXP would be small enough that if you had unrealistic back to back instant pops it would take roughly 8 1/2 hours to level up. Would mainly be nice for those leveling up their alts or wishing to break up the regular grind.
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    Last edited by Blubbers; 06-25-2015 at 04:13 AM.

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    I hope that they actually introduce the new PvP maps with new tomes right away. This content has always lagged behind the rest and it's very noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishles View Post
    I hope that they actually introduce the new PvP maps with new tomes right away. This content has always lagged behind the rest and it's very noticeable.
    Well thats because PvP is not a Pillar of this Game its just a "oh they have pvp...okay..." thing. And it should stay that Way. I don't want all these PvP Maniacs from other Games here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    Well thats because PvP is not a Pillar of this Game its just a "oh they have pvp...okay..." thing. And it should stay that Way. I don't want all these PvP Maniacs from other Games here.
    Why not? We already have a fair number of PvE elitists from other games here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
    Why not? We already have a fair number of PvE elitists from other games here.
    Well because exactly of these. You see how toxic the general Tune gets. Now imagine you have all these PvP Maniacs here, that flame you like "lolol can only hit dumb Mobs and no Ppl with Brain l2p" and analyze the Classes into the smallest detail (they think they do) and then cry for nerfs or buffs of classes in PvP.

    No thank you i love XIV. And if you love XIV you don't want em here too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    Well because exactly of these. You see how toxic the general Tune gets. Now imagine you have all these PvP Maniacs here, that flame you like "lolol can only hit dumb Mobs and no Ppl with Brain l2p" and analyze the Classes into the smallest detail (they think they do) and then cry for nerfs or buffs of classes in PvP.

    No thank you i love XIV. And if you love XIV you don't want em here too.
    I was being a bit sarcastic in my last post. It wasn't meant to be taken literally. Sorry about that, I should have been more clear.

    Heh, I wonder if I should start using sarcmark. Anyway...

    Excuse my bluntness, but my point was how stupid a reason that would be to not keep PvP updated with the times just like PvE. Why must one piece of content suffer when the other doesn't if both cause the same problem? Because it's the "lesser content" in the game? Don't give me that bull. Both PvE and PvP are wonderful features in FFXIV, with the latter only being "lesser" due to it suffering from developer neglect.

    Mark my words: if Square put half the effort into PvP that they put into their PvE, then FFXIV's PvP would be every bit as important and grand as the PvE.

    I dislike elitists (not to be confused with the actual, discreet and skilled elite - elitists, in my eyes, are the loud, obnoxious people who greatly overestimate their own skills, like those "PvP Maniacs" you mentioned) as much as the next guy and think they tend to ruin MMO communities by making them toxic. I've seen it in multiple MMORPGs, and, in general, it's only getting worse. But phasing out and neglecting content of any sort is not a solution to the elitism problem.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 07-04-2015 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    And it should stay that Way. I don't want all these PvP Maniacs from other Games here.
    Why? I'm curious, because usually people list pretty BS reasons.

    EDIT: Oh, never mind. You already replied to someone with the exact BS reasons everyone always lists. No further comments needed.
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    Last edited by Astryoneus; 07-04-2015 at 06:44 PM.

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    I recall we got poetics immediately after it was introduced, so law and esoterics probably are coming with the new map, while old FL will always have the 'old' uncapped tome.
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