So Eos/Selene's healing just sucks now?

[Rubiss]

I understand that Square is trying to balance the fairy healing, but I'm not sure I fully understand why Eos/Selene is healing for around 1.3k when the Scholar is healing for 2.6k with a spell that only has 100 potency more.

I feel as though their heals are just weak right now. And personally, I'd have no trouble healing as a 60 Scholar, so I can't truly complain all that much. However, I feel bad for Eos. Her main spell arsenal involves a healing over time spell, but even with Rouse, it only seems to heal for 600-700 HP.

This is difficult, since I am actually having no issues healing, but my fairy certainly isn't helping out the way they used to.

[Azorius]

I think that means they made the fairies extra gear dependent so SCH wouldn't get an easy pass during the early days of lvl 60 content but they will scale with us as we gear up and start to feel more powerful.

[Sidra]

It definitely did not scale to the level of the incoming damage or player HP did. It's about 35% stronger than the end of 2.0 - player HP are up like 75%. So fairy healing is comparatively weaker - and the "potency" on Embrace isn't relevant anymore since it's not an apples to apples comparison to our own heals as it used to be. Additionally, it's going to get worse as player HP raise via ilvl at a higher rate than a SCH gear upgrades impact fairy heals.

It's kind of annoying, but I am not sure anything is gonna be done, because at the same time it's pretty impossible to argue that SCH is in a bad place.

[Rubiss]

Yeah that's my issue. It's not a big problem since the Scholar's healing has certainly gotten better. I just feel as though the fairy should play a larger part. As it stands, I don't think Eos is necessary for anything in Heavensward. Maybe Savage Alexander will change that, but as it stands, with the fairies' healing being nerfed so badly, I cannot see a situation in which Eos' mediocre healing would ever be preferred over Selene's DPS buff and debuff cleansing.

[Wizarus]

Yeah that's my issue. It's not a big problem since the Scholar's healing has certainly gotten better. I just feel as though the fairy should play a larger part. As it stands, I don't think Eos is necessary for anything in Heavensward. Maybe Savage Alexander will change that, but as it stands, with the fairies' healing being nerfed so badly, I cannot see a situation in which Eos' mediocre healing would ever be preferred over Selene's DPS buff and debuff cleansing.

It's actually the other way around, with Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn (with or without the buffed Mind Pot) you can float for quite a while in CS, where as with Selene you can't hope to float anymore unless you have a good PLD with you.

[Rubiss]

It's actually the other way around, with Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn (with or without the buffed Mind Pot) you can float for quite a while in CS, where as with Selene you can't hope to float anymore unless you have a good PLD with you.

If we're going to talk about using cooldowns, then I would argue that the Scholar being in CS for 21 seconds longer is a smaller boost to overall damage than the 3% Haste Selene gives to the party. So even if you can float for longer in CS with Eos, there is no actual point to doing so.

Anyways, I've read the replies in this thread and I want to stress a few things. I fully understand that Scholars are still great healers. I can and have healed most content in this game and it wasn't too difficult. I could do it with Selene and I am sure I could do it with Eos as well. I am not claiming that Scholars are in a bad position nor that they need a buff to sit level with the others. I know the strengths of the class and I do play the other healers as well. I know that Scholar has no troubles in comparison to the other healers.

What I am trying to get at is I feel as though my fairy is nowhere near as useful as they once were. The Scholar heals for so much more now that the fairy really isn't bringing much beyond their own cooldowns. having 10k+ HP is very common in the current end-game. When my fairy is healing for 10% of that every five seconds to a single person, I am just not seeing how their healing is really helping. Do I rely on my fary to patch up DPS? Not really. I usually toss a physick and leave the minor patching up to them or tell them to do so. My point is that in terms of healing, the fairy is just not doing it and this really impacts Eos. As far as I am concerned, Eos is really only good for giving everyone's healing a 20% boost. Well, except the Scholar, since Lustrate and Indominability is unaffected by it.

I know Scholar's are in a great place. I just wish that the fairy played a larger role in why they're in that place. As it stands, Selene is really the only fairy worth using. But once again, Alexander Savage is coming, so that may change.

[Sabeta]

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Honestly? I think we've been too powerful for too long. I still feel incredibly powerful, and even with the weaker Eos/Selene I feel she still pulls her fair share. (Reminder: even in this nerfed state Selene is still a better version of Synastry that doesn't have a cooldown.) If they want to buff us back up then I won't complain, but I feel that my abilities are "appropriate" right now.

[ckc22]

It's bs. This sounds like more dancing around them just not saying "we nerfed the fairies." I just want an honest reply at this point.

[SuzakuCMX]

It's bs. This sounds like more dancing around them just not saying "we nerfed the fairies." I just want an honest reply at this point.

Fairy healing needed to be balanced between Physick healing the same amount as a Cure and Lustrate changing to a potency instead of a percent. If fairy healing was the same as 2.0 it'd be much much harder to balance a class like AST vs. SCH because AST naturally lacks the fairy (though it's not like Noct Sect is balanced vs. SCH right now anyways).

Besides, this is like healing with i70 Darklight Gear was in 2.0, and Embrace is still like 2/3 of my Physick at 55 (AKA more total healing than Cure II/Benefic II when Embrace/Physick are combined).

Fairy healing nerf had to happen if you wanted to keep Physick relevant.

[ckc22]

Fairy healing needed to be balanced between Physick healing the same amount as a Cure and Lustrate changing to a potency instead of a percent. If fairy healing was the same as 2.0 it'd be much much harder to balance a class like AST vs. SCH because AST naturally lacks the fairy (though it's not like Noct Sect is balanced vs. SCH right now anyways).

Besides, this is like healing with i70 Darklight Gear was in 2.0, and Embrace is still like 2/3 of my Physick at 55 (AKA more total healing than Cure II/Benefic II when Embrace/Physick are combined).

Fairy healing nerf had to happen if you wanted to keep Physick relevant.

BS to embrace being 66% of your physick.

Again - if they were up front about it it would be an entirely different thing, first they ninja'd it in and then they gave this non-answer.