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  1. #1
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    SirDiscoFrog's Avatar
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    Korvus Rook'shir
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    Behemoth
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Alexander got cleared within 2hr after it came out... you say they followed a guide? There wasn't one.
    ^Exactly and the main idea of this post is applicable to all the 3.0 raid content. There was a good amount of time of there being no guides for the Exs as folk were figuring out/making guides for dungeons instead.

    Bismark Ex is doable blind
    This fight was so simple and it just required paying attention and dodging. It was quite straight forward. The only hard part was that dps check was a bit of a pain for some when adding on dodging tornadoes + the debuff, especially when tank swaps got awkward. This fight is one of those things where if folk payed attention to their debuffs and BisHM it could be one-shotted blind.

    Ravana Ex is doable blind.
    This fight has a lot going on and even then most of it was just updated versions of the HM. The only mechanics that didn't seem very obvious at first and cause the most trouble was prey dives and positioning for larger dive AoEs. The newer mechanics introduced were in other trials/instances, like the orbs that were in chimera. With that said its a fight where you dont need to know exactly when everything is happening. Watching how the boss moves gives a sense of what he is going to do. Giant parry shield hints, his super crazy charge up attacks where for most of them you are either stacks right behind him or on a wall, extremely large AoE markers. Once you exprience it, one doesnt have to memorize the order of his phases at all.

    A1-4 are also doable without a guide imo. Did 1-3 blind and 4 i was going in blind but someone had said all the mechanics before the fight. It takes a bit more trail and error than the ex's for the higher levels but every fight that's suppose to be hard should. A few mechanics in these fights were once again done in other fights and the newer ones imo are quite fun and interesting mechanics wise without being that painful to figure out. Using a gobbie carts to move bombs, Killing an add for its mini field on rockets, the A4 'fun room', etc. Savage of course will probably be way more brutal but the exs and coils/alex is suppose to be the hardest content in the game. Watching a vid might help but its really not needed and even after watching a vid there will still be plenty of wipes as one has to actually experience it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Titan HM fits the description of not hard to learn, but hard to execute. Guess what? People can't do it. They complain its hard.
    Agreed. Move out the way when you need to or get wrecked, that fight is the definition of pay attention or die and mechanics wise its just the bare bones basics of dodge the thing and dont die. I don't buy the excuse of its broken considering how now all of a sudden with people being over geared everyone can now dodge and the countless times ive watched folk try to get off one last cast/attack and think that just because they made an effort to move it should be rewarded. After a while you should realize to move asap.
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    Kyant Nryasi
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDiscoFrog View Post

    Bismark Ex is doable blind

    Ravana Ex is doable blind
    Sure, if everyone else knows the fight and you get carried. Bismark is the easier of the two so I'll use that. In Bismark HM you were thrown off his back safely. There is no way to know that this is impossible. I guarantee that the first groups to do this fight had their first failures here. There is no cast bar and no debuf to read. He behaves exactly the same as in HM and if players' only knowledge is HM Bismark then they would not get off his back until they are thrown - since they know time is important and would want to get as much damage in as possible. Even if they were able to get it down in one go and avoid this, they would get hit by it at the end when you go on the 2nd time.
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    Korvus Rook'shir
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    Behemoth
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyant View Post
    Sure, if everyone else knows the fight and you get carried..
    False. Did it blind with 7 others, not a single one of us knew it. We mostly knew what was going on from the previous fight and the dps learned the hard way about the debuffs, myself included. Healers didnt even know why we were taking so much damage until i noticed the reflected message on my screen similar to Levi EX. I was a prime example of the 3 stack debuff that killed me and a drg. I dont know how many HMs you've done but most of the ones ive been in run off his back once he shudders just out of fear, so did the same. Wipes did happen and we learned from them. I feel like he is one shotable blind but that could be contested (That party would need to be very very good at noticing things as soon as they happen and probably have voice chat...maybe not the voice chat. In any case they would need to be very on point). He definitely however is beatable with a party going in blind/with Hm knowledge. Ravana I can say took us a lot longer doing it mostly blind. Last phase we did have someone explain what was screwing us up as she did it before us. Even those who know the fight at one point went in blind. And those who looked up guides? Guess how them guides came to be.
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    Last edited by SirDiscoFrog; 07-11-2015 at 05:10 AM.

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    Balmung
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    If we mean one shotting it blind, I doubt many could do it. If we mean after 2+ tries of going at it blind, then yes, monkeys can eventually figure out what's going on.
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