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    Lemme get this straight on Alexander loot system

    Note: I am not at home but I just read that whole gear pieces drop and tokens drop.


    ... That being said.... The goal is 100% to just spam the entire raid nonstop until you puke with one goal in mind:

    NEVER get a token, EVER. (Because apparently either a token drops or a piece of gear worth many tokens???????????)

    ALWAYS wait until a piece of relevant gear drops and then grab it and horde it and run away screaming with glee.

    And spam the dungeon more and more and more and more and more (and more and more and more) until you hit your weekly limit.

    Am I doing this right?
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    2 tokens drop from each turn. You can get 1 token per turn per week (loot lockout similar to towers, you can keep doing the turns to help your buddies). You can trade in tokens for gear. Here is a link that breaksdown where the tokens drop and how many of each you need: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mal_loot_list/

    You only need to spam it if you're trying to get everyone in the group a token, and then you're probably going to only need to spam it around 8 times; could be more times since some drop different types of tokens and you might not get the one you want first try (at least that's how it looks atm, could sue more testing), but since it drops 2 tokens each times it'd take a real bad string of luck to actually matter.

    Gear never drops. Only tokens.

    So no offense, but practically everything you said is wrong. It's actually a pretty good example of why people should actually experience the system before commenting about how broken it is, though.

    Edit: Also, clearing Alexander the first time awards you one of the accessory tokens (which only require 1 token), so everyone is guaranteed at least 1 accessory from their first full clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Why a month for a single chest piece? There are 5 levels of Alexander. You can get 1 token from each level per week. Meaning if you run it with a static or just spam it enough in the week, you can get a Chest piece or Leg piece in a week... Plus an accessory if you want.
    the chest token only drops from the 4th boss. Also there are only 4, not 5.
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    Last edited by Malevicton; 07-08-2015 at 01:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    Note: I am not at home but I just read that whole gear pieces drop and tokens drop.


    ... That being said.... The goal is 100% to just spam the entire raid nonstop until you puke with one goal in mind:

    NEVER get a token, EVER. (Because apparently either a token drops or a piece of gear worth many tokens???????????)

    ALWAYS wait until a piece of relevant gear drops and then grab it and horde it and run away screaming with glee.

    And spam the dungeon more and more and more and more and more (and more and more and more) until you hit your weekly limit.

    Am I doing this right?
    I almost puked reading your post. >_> sentence structure
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    I am looking at that loot table and how long it will take me to get a single piece of good gear and I am disheartened. Like is this for real? A month for a single chest piece?

    Holy shit. Not worth. I am sticking to my upgraded law gear, I can't wait a month for a single bloody chest piece >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    I almost puked reading your post. >_> sentence structure
    I hope a toilet was nearby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am looking at that loot table and how long it will take me to get a single piece of good gear and I am disheartened. Like is this for real? A month for a single chest piece?
    Holy shit. Not worth. I am sticking to my upgraded law gear, I can't wait a month for a single bloody piece >.>
    I hope a toilet was nearby.
    panicking & actually bashing something you don't really fully understand at its finest.
    let's be realistic. EVEN if it is a piece per month.. I am pretty sure you still gonna do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am looking at that loot table and how long it will take me to get a single piece of good gear and I am disheartened. Like is this for real? A month for a single chest piece?

    Holy shit. Not worth. I am sticking to my upgraded law gear, I can't wait a month for a single bloody chest piece >.>



    I hope a toilet was nearby.
    Why a month for a single chest piece? There are 5 levels of Alexander. You can get 1 token from each level per week. Meaning if you run it with a static or just spam it enough in the week, you can get a Chest piece or Leg piece in a week... Plus an accessory if you want.
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    OMG 4 WHOLE WEEKS?! You never played an mmo before?

    A month for the highest weighted item currently available in the game, yes. Can get 3 accessories by the end of the day, though - or 2 and a belt. Some people actually already broke down the value per token though, and it looks like hands/feet are slightly better than the chest, and those take 2 weeks.

    Even still guaranteed loot after 4 weeks instead of full RNG is pretty much exactly what everyone asked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I hope a toilet was nearby.
    L2R ? =p "almost"
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    The loot system is pretty ridiculous. It's not so bad when floors 1 and 2 are in play, seeing as those are easily DF'able, but turns 3 and especially floor 4 AKA the "tank killer 5000" just make the thought of doing it over and over again aggravating.

    If you don't have a static raid group who's fine with spamming each floor 4+ times to get everyone their item, getting your item from floor 3 and 4 every week is just going to be a bitch, especially with the way this token system works. No class restriction on anything, so you're constantly fighting against a bunch of other people for your drop, no matter their role or whether or not they actually need what they're rolling on. Not to mention, you could gear a class that you aren't even queuing as.

    And as far as what drops where, it's like this:

    Floor

    1) Chain, Pedal, Bolt
    2) Lens, Pedal, Bolt
    3) Lens, Crank, Spring
    4) Shaft, Crank, Spring, Gobwalker Shielding, Gordian Gear(<-Material, not armor).

    Costs

    Head: Lens (x2)
    Body: Shaft (x4)
    Hands: Crank (x2)
    Waist: Chain (x1)
    Legs: Spring (x4)
    Feet: Pedal (x2)
    Accessories: Bolt (x1)
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    Last edited by Ditto; 07-08-2015 at 10:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    OMG 4 WHOLE WEEKS?! You never played an mmo before?

    A month for the highest weighted item currently available in the game, yes. Can get 3 accessories by the end of the day, though - or 2 and a belt. Some people actually already broke down the value per token though, and it looks like hands/feet are slightly better than the chest, and those take 2 weeks.

    Even still guaranteed loot after 4 weeks instead of full RNG is pretty much exactly what everyone asked for.
    I personally would have preferred full on RNG with loot lockout only when you obtain an item. This current system feels like balancing spinning plates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    L2R ? =p "almost"
    You can go and be critical/rude (who do you think you are lmfao) to someone who cares, alas I do not. Goodbye.
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