Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[Hyrist]

I prefer the consistency of progress then the randomization of loot, honestly. At least here I know I need multiple runs, and I know with certain numbers I'll get what I want.

[Arkista]

You want gear drops along side those tokens. You do the math from there...

This loot system is a huge improvement. You haven't even given it a chance. That's why all of these cpmplaints are so silly. "I don'tlike it because of this made up theory that I have!"...

Did you not read what I said? You quoted what I said, and its there plain as day, I said

" It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate"... What is so hard to get? Again this goes back to the first raid, which I said looks like you weren't around for those considering your join date.

Let me be clear on how this new raid system should have been, and what many of us thought it was going to be. You finish a floor two pieces of gear drop, if you don't win the lot then you receive a Token, (or you can choose not accept the token and keep doing that floor for gear)you are then locked out from casting lots on that floor for the rest of the week, even if you receive a token. If you didn't get gear and instead got a Token, you can then collect however many tokens to redeem a single piece of gear. I don't know if I could explain it any more clearly than that.

So yes there should be Gear drops along side tokens, you can't obtain both from one floor its one or the other, then you're locked out. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to get, you sure, cause you weren't around.

T1-T5 people would go months without a drop they needed, we would got weeks without seeing a tank or healer piece, we would go weeks seeing the same damn DRG piece, I went three months without a drop for my MNK. Do you know what a lot of people wanted? A token system to go along with the raid loot system. And a lot of us thought that's what we were getting.

It's not hard to do gear and tokens, if you don't get gear you have tokens to fall back on, sure it might take longer with tokens, but for some of us that's ok. I did try the loot system as well, and I don't like it. And others feel that way as well. And that's those of us who are already i170+, there are still a lot of the player base that won't get to raid for quite some time.

[ElHeggunte]

Alexander normal is pathetically easy. You don't need a static for this.

In fairness, no one is saying to get a static because it's hard. They're saying to get a static to make it easier to get your weekly loot.

[Cirgellon]

Did you not read what I said? You quoted what I said, and its there plain as day, I said

" It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate"... What is so hard to get? Again this goes back to the first raid, which I said looks like you weren't around for those considering your join date.

Let me be clear on how this new raid system should have been, and what many of us thought it was going to be. You finish a floor two pieces of gear drop, if you don't win the lot then you receive a

You haven't given it a chance. It's been out for less than half a day...

You said gear would also drop. You the said it would take X amount of time to gear while only factoring in your token system. A token system that could take you much longer than the current system, btw...

They implemented a token system to counter exactly what you just complained about... You don't have to worry about a specific drop anymore. That'sthe entire point..

Yes. We should always justify bad systems instead of hoping/asking/demanding better.

Yes, you should cry about somethi g that you haven't even given a chance. I'm sure thkse demands will be taken seriously... lol...

[ckc22]

Yes. We should always justify bad systems instead of hoping/asking/demanding better.

[ckc22]

Alexander normal is pathetically easy. You don't need a static for this.

You're going to have to run it a billion times without a static because you'll constantly be rolling against 7 people because people will just leave once they get what they want.

[iro43]

12.5% chance that your item will drop or 12.5% chance you will beat everyone else in the party on the roll, what's the difference?

[Mhikail]

You're going to have to run it a billion times without a static because you'll constantly be rolling against 7 people because people will just leave once they get what they want.

There was Pro's and Con's to both of these loots.

The old gear roll, we at least had Job's sets. We wasn't fightnin' over 7 other people....Less than that or none at all depending on your job. Still...you got sick of NIN shxt every time!
This new gear roll, instead of waiting 30 damn years to see a BLM body [I'm lookin' at you WoD] you can hope to collect tokens and save for it...but again, it's a fight between you and 7 others.
Good news is, if it's as easy as everyone says, you can burn through multiple times and get a chance for it.

I have to actually try it out and see my thoughts.
I just find it hysterical that 'Majority ruled' here now they're pissed to hell and back. Hah.

[Arkista]

You haven't given it a chance. It's been out for less than half a day...

You said gear would also drop. You the said it would take X amount of time to gear while only factoring in your token system. A token system that could take you much longer than the current system, btw...

They implemented a token system to counter exactly what you just complained about... You don't have to worry about a specific drop anymore. That'sthe entire point..



Yes, you should cry about somethi g that you haven't even given a chance. I'm sure thkse demands will be taken seriously... lol...

Are you kidding me? I gave it a chance, don't like.

I said that the new loot system should have been like the old, but add in Tokens..... But I don't think you know how that old system works?

My complaint is that we should have had the old raid loot system, with a token system added to it, so for those of us who don't get anything can just accept the token and move along. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO GET? The old system was ok, it just needed tokens and it would have been perfect.

Yes, I complained that we could go months without getting what we want, or we would see the same crap every week, I never said I didn't want that loot system anymore. I have always wanted that system to be improved, which SE had the perfect chance to do and they screwed it up. Keep the gear drops from defeating a floor boss, let people lot it, the other players who didn't get anything could choose to take a token or they could not accept the token and keep running the floor until the get the gear they want.

I don't even know how many times I've tried to explain this to you. And its not my system, it the system many of us thought we were getting. Gear and Tokens you can obtain one or the other from a floor and are locked out until the weekly reset. We have like 7 different tokens, it should all have been the same kind and each piece of gear cost different amounts.

I'm really not going to explain it anymore, hopefully Savage Mode will have a different system than story mode.


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WHY DO YOU KEEP TELLING PEOPLE THEY ARE CRYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN A CHANCE?

It's really not that hard of a loot system that people need to try it out for 4 weeks to understand it. You go in kill the boss, two Tokens drop, you lot against 7 other players, you then either trade 1, 2, or 4 tokens for a piece of gear..... What is so hard to understand about that?

Each floor has three different tokens(last I checked) and the last has extra materials (mount/minion).

I really don't understand why we can't have both loot systems. If you're in a static, none of this probably even matters to you.

I'd rather do 50 runs of Alexander and be rolling on an item to trade, (and have a chance against 7 other people), than be passing over and over again and having no chance because my gear didn't drop in the first place.

Why can't we have both?

[WinterLuna]

I'd rather do 50 runs of Alexander and be rolling on an item to trade, (and have a chance against 7 other people), than be passing over and over again and having no chance because my gear didn't drop in the first place.