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  1. #91
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Everyone should get a token. Just have the system not reward you extras, problem solved.
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  2. #92
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Most people who don't like it.

    Monks/Bards/Ninjas <3

    I find it amusing myself.
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  3. #93
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    Cool Mithra
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    Another solution would be to have all the gear use the same tokens like Bismark/Ravana EX and make the tokens only obtained once a week for each Floor completed(this can be done just like the daily roulette rewards, but just change it to weekly reward). Also, replace the token drops from bosses with the actual loot drops instead, but keep the weekly lockout on the loot.

    You could also change the weekly loot lockout to affect all four floors instead of individual floors if loot is being acquired too fast.
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    Last edited by CoolMithra; 07-08-2015 at 06:00 AM.

  4. #94
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Most people who don't like it.

    Monks/Bards/Ninjas <3

    I find it amusing myself.
    im a bard n i like it lol :3 some people just arent happy n wanna see the world burn.. theres no pleasing those kinds of people, only time they are happy is when they are complaining
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  5. #95
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    There is a bigger issue that no one has even said. What happens in two weeks? Savage Mode, Going to keep the same loot system? Or are we going to see Gear drop from each floor and players who didn't receive gear get tokens? I don't think a majority of the player base is going to be able to farm savage f1-f4, four to eight times per floor a week, to make sure everyone gets what they need/want.
    Most of the playerbase isn't going to be able to farm Savage, period. "Story" Alexander was meant to be faceroll easy. The fact that it went straight into Duty Finder (and was cleared within hours) demonstrates this. It's content that's aimed at letting the average player cut their teeth on some basic raid content and delivering the lore in a causal-friendly manner. Savage Alexander is for the raiders to chew on for awhile; that means it's initially going to be static groups working on progression. I'm sure there will be PF's and such, but I seriously doubt we'll see the tougher raid content go straight into Duty Finder, where it would be doomed to failure after failure.
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  6. #96
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Someone convince me that this system will actually have any negative impact on SE, because the impotent whining in this thread hasn't done it.

    This is all you have for the next 3 months, want to get everything you want in 10 runs like ravana? You'll probably unsub anyway because you clearly consider playing the game a chore.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettomendes View Post
    Where's that guy with the "RNG is RNG" signature?
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  8. #98
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Well I did like 12 runs tonight and got 0 tokens. There's pretty much 0 chance I would have gotten absolutely nothing in 12 runs of any other content, so to all those saying "give it a chance" - chance given, and my concerns were right.

    Edit: make it 1/13. Still not impressed. Also not the token I had planned to gear up efficiently but I was tired of getting nothing.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 07-08-2015 at 01:50 PM.

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Someone convince me that this system will actually have any negative impact on SE, because the impotent whining in this thread hasn't done it.

    This is all you have for the next 3 months, want to get everything you want in 10 runs like ravana? You'll probably unsub anyway because you clearly consider playing the game a chore.
    Lulz. The bismarck and ravana token systems are actually well designed. Rage harder.
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    Every new method that SE implement, there's new thread of complain.
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