BRD/MCH Fixed!

[sirDarts]

Foe Requiem requires that you have a bunch of caster dps. But what if your dps is ninjas and dragoons? It's benefit is then minimal. Also, it drains the bards MP ridiculously fast, so it can only be maintained for a few seconds per minute.

Also, if they have to be running tp/mp song, they can't run Requiem.

Well even with 1 caster in your group, it helps, and it doesn't lower your own damage as the other songs do.
But yeah, didn't know how costly it is.

[Krissey]

Foe Requiem requires that you have a bunch of caster dps. But what if your dps is ninjas and dragoons? It's benefit is then minimal. Also, it drains the bards MP ridiculously fast, so it can only be maintained for a few seconds per minute.

Also, if they have to be running tp/mp song, they can't run Requiem.

Because you aren't thinking GROUP wise. NIN+Bard+SMN+BLM = lining up cooldowns for MASSIVE burst.

NIN uses Trick Attack which increases ALL DAMAGE taken by the monster by 10%, so then the bard sings Foe Requiem and the SMN uses Deathflare and the Blackmage pops cooldowns and suddenly all those DOTS/Ruins/Fire 4's etc...hit EXCEEDINGLY hard. You have a hybrid DPS that can run and gun like the SMN, or stand still like the BLM, a melee which will benefit the from and be a benefit to the Warrior OT, it's like a dream team of massive overpowered turbo burst goodness.

[Lillia]

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in a set up w/ a confident group it turns into NIN+Bard+SMN+BLM+SCH/WHM/AST when healers have an open moment or just boss down times that allow you to hit the boss.

[Edellis]

Foe Requiem requires that you have a bunch of caster dps. But what if your dps is ninjas and dragoons? It's benefit is then minimal. Also, it drains the bards MP ridiculously fast, so it can only be maintained for a few seconds per minute.

Also, if they have to be running tp/mp song, they can't run Requiem.

...Sigh...

All of Ninja's mudras are magic damage. Except for shuriken, but who cares about that.

You will not be playing a raid duty without 2 healers...both of which are very much capable of contributing to DPS. So Foe Requiem is already a valuable buff to have.

For any DPS casters (or a Ninja using Raiton, one of its strongest moves), a 10-20% flat damage boost is significant. That's a free B4B or Raging Strikes.

If anyone dies in a raid, it's likely Ballad/Paeon will be necessary. Raise costs tons of MP, death revives you with very little TP.

Anything else is just icing on the cake.

...I would expect people to know this in a thread about BRD, but i guess my expectations are too high.

[nuyu11]

I have nothing to say.. after trying it out. I'm disappointed, will swap to other class, thinking about leveling MCH but not really dare to take a bet. I'm not sure what is going on or what's wrong with it. but I feel the bard that I use now is not like what I like in previous expansion. Farewell Bard.

[Reinha]

I have nothing to say.. after trying it out. I'm disappointed, will swap to other class, thinking about leveling MCH but not really dare to take a bet. I'm not sure what is going on or what's wrong with it. but I feel the bard that I use now is not like what I like in previous expansion. Farewell Bard.

I swapped from bard too. You should join the summoner club! It's got cast times aswell, but at least you get to 1) do higher dps, 2) be better at soloing and 3) be desired in runs where tp/mp support isn't needed. Plus you get to have some unique utility since it's the only dps able to ress healers after the limit break change. If you're into raiding you have just as good a chance to get into groups since most go for 2 melee/1 support/1 caster.

Please don't switch from Bard to magic casting classes thank you. If you're complaining about having cast times now.....I'd hate to imagine how you would handle being a caster and having to sustain high dps while having to move.

You think people picked bard because they can't handle cast times? LOL. As if casting even remotely resembles a challenge. <_< It's a matter of fun and I think if they added casts to melee they would be annoyed too. My point was that if casting is inevitable for all ranged dps then why not go for something that can, you know, actually dps as their role requires.

[Noira]

You think people picked bard because they can't handle cast times? LOL. As if casting even remotely resembles a challenge. <_< It's a matter of fun and I think if they added casts to melee they would be annoyed too. My point was that if casting is inevitable for all ranged dps then why not go for something that can, you know, actually dps as their role requires.

Uh yes that's exactly why they picked Bard.....what do you think the complaints are about ?

Adding casts to melee would not ever make sense and SE would only pull it in a last ditch effort to say EFF the game we're done.

Bard having a cast stance actually makes sense. It's akin to nocing an arrow the harder you pull the stronger the hit...and don't give me that , they don't sing about it crap, ofc they don't, but this is FF.

[Panasync]

Bard having a cast stance actually makes sense. It's akin to nocing an arrow the harder you pull the stronger the hit...and don't give me that , they don't sing about it crap, ofc they don't, but this is FF.

If it made so much sense they should have added it in 2.0. Then you go on to use an in-world explanation for why a bard would have to cast (they're not nocing it btw they're shivering back and forth with their hand on the arrow) then say well don't expect realism about singing for it before hand because it's FF. If it's just FF and you don't expect realism don't use that as an excuse as to why the job should have it in only certain circumstances.

[Taban]

My biggest problem is that weaving OGCD's just feels very clunky with cast times. Probably because we have so many, weaving cd's used to feel like a natural part of bards playstyle, now it just feels like the job doesn't flow and wasn't thought out well.

I miss the mobility for sure, and there's a pretty decent chance I'll be changing over to smn, but I"ll hold off the final decision for a week or two to see where we are.

[Garan]

It seems to be a common theme that people think BRDs are whining. Well, maybe we are a little bit. BUT, wouldn't you if they changed the basic way your job played? I really enjoyed the way BRD played prior to WM. Now I have to cast my skills. If I wanted to do that I would have chosen to play a BLM. I enjoyed the constant mobility we were allowed. I was fine with lower sustained DPS because I felt like I could keep up on downtimes when everyone else had to stop DPS to move. This now requires stance dancing constantly to do the same. I still plan on taking BRD to 60, but whether or not I will main it going forward is up in the air. I simply DO NOT like the changes to the CORE game play of BRD.