BRD/MCH Fixed!

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

. . .if you don't even try to adjust to the skill then you shouldn't really complain about it.

Sir/Madam, don't use logic here—these are forums.

[Aiselia]

I feel this is like if you go to a restaurant and order steak (BRD) and they serve you chicken (Bow Mage) and you ask them to take the chicken back and they come back with more chicken.

Clearly you just need to adapt to the chicken.

[Exosapien]

Now instead of doing slightly less DPS without WM you do so much less as to make any BRD not using WM a lol bard (the new dragoon).

That will teach us BRDs for liking BRDs! You showed us SE!

Is it too late to get my $140 back for Heavensward collector's?

I feel this is like if you go to a restaurant and order steak (BRD) and they serve you chicken (Bow Mage) and you ask them to take the chicken back and they come back with more chicken.

Or like, you order a steak but you complain that it isn't cut into tiny piece before it's brought out to you since you can't take the 1.5 seconds to cut it yourself between bouncing around from the table to the bathroom for no reason whatsoever like you've been doing in the restaurant for the last couple years and they're tired of your nonsense. Wait... this metaphor doesn't work at all!

[Panasync]

If anything WM makes the job easier, not harder. Before to do maximum DPS you needed to be on your DoT's/oGCD's/procs and buff alignment, it was much more fast paced because there was zero downtime to do so, the cast times have slowed the job down significantly. I actually find it much more peaceful, I still prefer the way the job played for the last 2/2.5/3 years (however long it's been since release), but to make it sound like the change has made the job more difficult is showing a distinct lack of knowledge of how the job was properly played prior to and now.

[ChloeGrace]

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Fine. You might like it. You are definitely in a VERY small minority.
The vast majority of bard mains played properly prior to 3.0, and obviously have a distinct advantage in job knowledge over you.
For you to believe that the job isn't still broken now (perhaps even worse than 3.0) then you are even more of an idiot than your post indicates.
Casting times make it IMPOSSIBLE to weave oGCD skills and maintain any kind of flow.

Try driving a precision sports car for 2 years, then put square wheels on it and see how well it works. That's bard right now.

PS. OP thread title is wrong - bard is NOT fixed.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Or like, you order a steak but you complain that it isn't cut into tiny piece before it's brought out to you since you can't take the 1.5 seconds to cut it yourself between bouncing around from the table to the bathroom for no reason whatsoever like you've been doing in the restaurant for the last couple years and they're tired of your nonsense. Wait... this metaphor doesn't work at all!

LEL. Pretty much this 100x

[Greywolfamakir]

Hello

If you saw Live Letter XXIII, I dont understand why are You asking anything, just reroll guys, NIN, DRG, MNK are really balanced and OP like hell, and If You like to cast, SMN and BLM are currently really good. During Alexander Savage progress if your group need support, then good luck searching a BRD or a MCH who actually is enjoying this jobs .

[Panasync]

Fine. You might like it. You are definitely in a VERY small minority.
The vast majority of bard mains played properly prior to 3.0, and obviously have a distinct advantage in job knowledge over you.
For you to believe that the job isn't still broken now (perhaps even worse than 3.0) then you are even more of an idiot than your post indicates.
Casting times make it IMPOSSIBLE to weave oGCD skills and maintain any kind of flow.

Try driving a precision sports car for 2 years, then put square wheels on it and see how well it works. That's bard right now.

PS. OP thread title is wrong - bard is NOT fixed.

I never said I liked it, in-fact I stated I didn't like it as I prefer the playstyle that the game has used since launch. I was making a point to the people that seem to think using WM is somehow more difficult, it is not, it is actually easier.

I honestly feel like you didn't read my post at all.

[AnnietheCat]

A lot of the people I play with just hung up their bard gear. I've gone to full time crafting(and got three classes to 50 too!). But to callously tell your fellow players, people who pay to play this just like you, "just reroll and stop whining" and "well /I/ like it, so quit crying" is unnecessarily rude. Yes, it's still obvious that the players are still split on what they want to see from bard. Those who like it don't somehow trump those who don't. Giving us a class split would be the best option at this point. One for pure dps and one for support. I am super glad there are people who like it, though; like I said, the devs worked hard on it. But many of us don't like it and we deserve to play just as much as those who do.

[Marionette]

I've been maining mch since HW now, and while I agree we shouldn't be doing as much DPS as other DPS jobs, I shouldn't have to be worried about DPS checks if I'm not the only Mch/brd in the party, Not skill of the player, just the job itself. While 2/4x brd/mch is a possibility in DF, it should still be possible to complete the content outright, let alone in a reasonable time. But right now it might as well be "Ok Ninja, you will do 10% less DPS overall, because you have access to vunerability+ and goad, but we'll also add a 15% damage debuff to you for 15 seconds after you use goad and trick attack. Oh and while were at it, we'll make it so you lose your auto attacks while under effect of Huton.