BRD/MCH Fixed!

[AnnietheCat]

It's not a matter of not wanting adapt. Many of have tried it, and many of us are good at it. It's not hard to do. Our ability to adapt isn't the problem. We aren't being lazy, we aren't being bad players. The problem is that this is a completely different play style, and one we didn't choose. Yeah, the cast times are quick. But If we wanted cast times at all, we would have went with a mage class. Except we didn't. Many of us absolutely, without a doubt wanted a ranged physical dps class. That's all we're saying. It's a matter of "we tried this, we learned it, and it is a play style we don't like". Many of us have been playing bard for a year or more. Many of us were happy with our old play style. Our run and gun style hurt literally no one and it wasn't a problem. But now that we say this isn't a play style we like, everyone is telling us to suck it up because we don't need the mobility. That's why people are complaining.

[Noira]

LOL no I just don't pretend like changes aren't coming to a job.

Each class requires skill and planning now, bard is no different.

Stop complaining because you thought it wouldn't be touched.

I happen to enjoy the changes made to Bard and plan to finish it to 60 and raid with it.

[FateAudax]

LOL no I just don't pretend like changes aren't coming to a job.

Each class requires skill and planning now, bard is no different.

Stop complaining because you thought it wouldn't be touched.

I happen to enjoy the changes made to Bard and plan to finish it to 60 and raid with it.

Currently, amongst the 2.0 jobs which got hit the hardest is Bard, and we got hit with a cast bar. If it was some melee class who got hit with a cast bar, I wonder if people will be starting threads and be like "yea, it's fine. Melee with cast bar is like totally normal. We'll just learn to adapt.", "Thanks Yoshi.P! Totally love my new melee class with them cast bar. Now we're real melee."

[lordjoosie]

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Stop complaining because you thought it wouldn't be touched.

I happen to enjoy the changes made to Bard and plan to finish it to 60 and raid with it.

Unlike a lot of folks, for me it's not at all about not liking the changes. I can play the job either way and be fine. It's about balance. The roles are supposed to be balanced. This isn't a wish of mine. It's a stated goal of the designers of the game. Every healer class should heal/support the party equally, every tank class should be equally useful to a party. And every DPS class should provide the same damage to a party whether it be by straight damage, or it's own damage combined with added damage for the party through abilities.

Bard currently, no matter how it is played, does not, so it needs to be adjusted. They didn't make these changes because they thought bard wasn't difficult enough to play. They thought it would balance the job. It has not.

[AnnietheCat]

I've already mentioned how bard players are split on what they want to see from the job itself. No one thought it wouldn't be touched. We didn't think we'd have our play style ripped from us and forced to be a bow mage. It's cool you enjoy the changes. I'm glad someone does, because the devs worked really hard on it. But many people still hate it. This is one of those times when Yoshi-P's time in other MMOs is going to be harmful to us because with how split players are over our new changes, this game could benefit from the addition of specialization. As much as I dislike both SWTOR and WoW, the way they handle jobs and the freedom of choice is something they both do right. The people who enjoy the changes aren't the problem. But pretending we all have to like them because half of the career bards like them is a problem. If there was a choice between WM and something else, fine. But at this point we're forced into a play style that many of us hate. Not all, just many.

[Rafaelhades]

They could swap Emp arrow and Sidewinder in WM. Emp arrow only useable in WM and make crits reset cd on Emp arrow, making it the Bloodletter while WM is active, while Sidewinder can be used out of WM to allow for better burst while on the move on top of BL resets. This way, people won't have to worry about BL resets while turreting. BRD 3.0 isn't as fluid as 2.0.

[BlurtedNonsense]

Even when SE has increased my DPS by 100 - 200. It still doesn't let me join a PF for Alex runs, and the new Ex. I have yet been able to join a Bismark ex due to the stigma that MCH still has. This discrimination is baffling, especially since I managed to get my DPS up close to other DPS jobs with doing 6k+ wildfire damage. That's a very noticeable hit to a boss. So, why the hell am I treated like the fat kid getting picked last at a ball game? It's bullshit!

[HairyRoger]

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I am quite surprised about his "not able to join" thing that has been going. I have not once been kicked, not been able to join nor had any bad comments towards being a mch, at all.

On a side note, I agree with you in terms of people complaining about the wrong things. MCH is supposed to cast and do what it does. We were not changed like bards, we are doing exactly what we should. If anything I think BRD should be changed to being more mobile so that we are not carbon copies. MCH is in a good spot in many ways right now. The only thing I feel is a problem that actually needs attention is when RNG is giving you the rear end.

MCH is what it is. If the playstyle is a problem, people picked the wrong class for them. People need to stop putting brd and mch in the same boat when it comes to what they want to happen to the classes.

[BlurtedNonsense]

Also to those MCH complaining about being a stuck caster doing shit DPS like as if SE didn't update the job, obviously is not playing their jobs right. You can still move around with GB if you use your skills right. Firstly with rapid fire and procced skills require no cast time. I can go a whole rotation with only one cast bar popping up while having GB on and doing good DPS.the only time my DPS drops is after two rotations and my shit is on cool down and encounter the almighty RNGesus with no procs but most of the time I'm pretty lucky and time my abilities just right.

Moral of the story...learn your job! You're making us look worse than we are.

[Galdous]

Sigh. I wish SE would take these boards down. Taking feedback from people is fine and dandy until you realize 90% of them just are focusing on wanting the job they play most to be OP over other jobs just for the sake of being overpowered. Bards are pulling 800 dps at 175 and bursting 1400 so I do not know what the fuss is about. And as the above poster stated machinist if they use rapid fire right and learn proper timing you have plenty of movement with gauss.

Seems people's view is unless a job does the best dps with forgiving mechanics then its messed up and will be dead weight in raids. As Marie-Antoinette stated let them eat cake.