Thread: Please help me understand why i should continue to play a repeat of 2.0?

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Reinha when Zilart and cop came out:
1. I didnt even have one 75 job was still working on that.
2. Was fun doing dungeons because it was challenge and rewarding.
3. Storyline was 10/10
4. Questing in FFXI you where not someones fetchboy as it is in FFXIV.
5. Where many jobs in FFXI you couldnt have had all of them maxed out was almost impossible and difficult.
6. Its an MMORPG stuff shouldnt be soloed the point is finding people that are willing to help you. I understand nothing like FFXI where 6 players must do stuff but atleast 2 or 3 people OUTSIDE of duty finder!
7. I laugh at your silly 5 new skills for each job when FFXI overwhelmed you with skills and jobs im used to a BLM having 40+ spells not 20.

Beleive me I can go on.

1. Whatever
2. Yeah sitting in one spot pulling the same mob for hours on end, awesome fun.......
3. Thats purely opinion based, Some was good, some not so good. 3.0, IMO, blows everything away from FFXI.
4. It was either ridiculous amounts of drops, or insanely rare drops to hand in.
5. Because many jobs weren't even welcomed in XP parties, you were FOTM job/sub or GTFO. Also XP didn't scale, you were getting the same XP at 70 as you where at 20. XP parties consisted of stacking the FOTM DD job.
6. But it shouldn't be mandatory either, why many where stuck in Jueno waiting from hours to days, depending on which job they wanted to level trying to get an XP party or people to join. Seeing as you could lose hours of XPiing in seconds, players played it safe
7. Thunder, most of the "new skills" where unused and/or useless. You pretty much used the same WS/spells for all content. BLM, thunder. Also due to resists and elemental wheel, certain jobs where excluded from certain content.

Your role was pretty much dictated by the majority, SMN? heal due to them having the largest MP pool. RDM? Better keep that refresh up.

Believe me, I also can go on.

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Many things about FFXI where nice especially gameplaywise. You are not bound by one single weapon compared to Yoshi Ps WoWs vision.

Correction:
The decision to give every class only 1 weapon type was made by Tanaka, not Yoshida. And I doubt the old team knew much about WoW. Or about MMORPG in generall, seeing how even the simplest standards (like a search system for the market wards) were missed in 1.0 at launch and how exp was earned.

Learn your XIV history facts first

Sapphic: No edit im dead serious I didnt have my 75 at that time it took me about 7 months i think to get one job to 75. Again like I've said for the 10th time. No one wants a new FFXI but we want something challenging and rewarding like FFXI. Learn from what actually was good in FFXI and take it with you here. Alot of things where really good about that game use thoese and don't ignore them all the way since FFXI was the start of SE FF MMORPG franchise.

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

So by having a 2.0 reskinned as 3.0 with everything exactly the way it was isnt broken?

Was it broken in the first place in 2.0? Because it didn't seem to be for me.

Why does the game have to change drastically with each expansion?

Edit: And please don't exaggerate by saying "everything". We have had some changes which were asked for, including drops from primals and raids.

Sure there are things that can be improved, including hunts, but claiming that everything is the same isn't helping you win your argument.

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

By that fast levling you barely get to enjoy your levels or the gear that you get. I got to enjoy my level 52 gears for about 3h then i was 54 and had to upgrade well that was worth it?

Then you had the wrong gear on.
I enjoyed my lv 50 gear until lv 54.

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Reinha when Zilart and cop came out:
1. I didnt even have one 75 job was still working on that.
2. Was fun doing dungeons because it was challenge and rewarding.
3. Storyline was 10/10
4. Questing in FFXI you where not someones fetchboy as it is in FFXIV.
5. Where many jobs in FFXI you couldnt have had all of them maxed out was almost impossible and difficult.
6. Its an MMORPG stuff shouldnt be soloed the point is finding people that are willing to help you. I understand nothing like FFXI where 6 players must do stuff but atleast 2 or 3 people OUTSIDE of duty finder!
7. I laugh at your silly 5 new skills for each job when FFXI overwhelmed you with skills and jobs im used to a BLM having 40+ spells not 20.

Beleive me I can go on.

FFXIV is borrowing from the philosophy Blizzard adopted with questing, which was to make quests "jobs" that were short and sweet. The characters issuing the jobs weren't really important and the quests were meant to compliment the faster paced combat as well as emphasize the nature of the world the player was in. The issue is that FFXIV is as much about their characters as the world building, so they really need fewer quests and more effort put into those implemented and the characters issuing them. For example, if someone is going to give us a quest, they should look unique, have good dialog, well composed cutscenes, and maybe a voice acted part or two so we get a feel for them. Haucherfant was a good example of a character that wasn't all that impressive at the start of 2.0, but they made him so much more by giving him a voice and putting him in a well crafted quest chain.

A lot of the current quests are okay as local jobs, but they aren't really "quests" as much as doing some shmoes laundry. Personally, I think they should take a page from the Witcher 3 and have all the quests start at a job board at each settlement, then have the player go talk to the npc involved. At the very least then it feels like what it should be. Heck, they should be doing this with the existing battlecraft leves so they don't seem like they are job posting popping out of the nether.