Thread: Please help me understand why i should continue to play a repeat of 2.0?

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

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Thing is though that's just the nature of MMOs. Even WoW did it. Older content eventually gets nerfed to help newer players catch up to everyone else. What good is keeping the original difficulty of dungeons related to the story when the older players refuse to do the content with them? That was the problem with Steps: not even the vets cared for the challenge. If they got it in their duty roulette they would immediately leave the instance and incur a time penalty because they did not want to deal with it. Even those who liked the challenge refused to do it a second time. So then you have an entire group of players that can't play a whole expansion because half the player base refused to do it with them. Hence the nerf.

Raids themselves I do agree, they should be hard. And shouldn't be nerfed until their place in the game has been upstaged by the next raid. However, you wanting the game to cater to you and refuse nerfs even after you've done content is no different than the people who want easier access to raids. Your reasons for demanding change are the only things that are different. You and the people who cleared the content with you know what you did. I do think there should be very distinct loot of some kind that those who clear at regular difficulties should get that others don't, but beyond that, why refuse to let others have entry?

You do belong in this game, that is for certain. But so does everyone else that pays their subs too. Even if previous raids didn't get nerfed, you wouldn't be doing them anyway because you're waiting for the next new thing.

You shouldn't. Have a nice day!

Originally Posted by Aqua_Amaiyo

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Where yo sig from?

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

It wouldnt hurt SE to release certain content and just say OK listen up We finally listened and Yoshi P went Tanaka for once.

That was FFXIV 1.0 and it didn't go very far, only a small portion of the player base were willing to pay for it.
There were some good stuff from 1.0 but it just did not attract as much people as the casual friendly ARR did. You said the game is too easy yet alot of people did not even attempt coil. If you cater only to the hardcore - then you have Wildstar - gone free to play in no time. By the so call "nerf" or echo, it allows the larger population to experience the content (which are typically out of date anyways)

Quit the game bro. No one is putting a gun to your head telling you to keep playing. If you don't enjoy the game just quit.

Originally Posted by Cirgellon

So youbare upset that this game doesn't have as much stuff as a 10 year old game? lol...

Uh, the games been out 2 years, 5 counting 1.0. 2004-2006 FFXI had the following:

Rise of the Zilart
Chains of Promathia
Treasures of Aht Urgahn.

3, yes, 3! expansions. Endgame looked like this:
Monday - Dynamis
Tuesday - Einerjar/Limbus
Weds. - Sky
Thursday - Nyzul Isle

All 5 of these events utilized vastly different gameplay ideas to obtain endgame quality gear. It wasn't just grinding tomes in dungeons that are faceroll, it was just farming 24 man content that wasn't faceroll, and it wasn't just one hardcore static-required raid. The gear dropped was relevant across the board, just for different reasons(one tank piece lowering damage taken, one increasing rampart's duration, etc.)

The point is variety, something this game lacks, right out of the expansion's gate. We've been farming Philos....I mean, Mytholo.....Sol.....Poe......Law! That's it! Tomestones for years now, in the same manner we did when ARR launched. We've had one 8 person raid since launch, Coil and now Alexander, not both, as Alex replaces Coil. We've had one 24 person raid since launch, CT and whatever is going to replace it.

The new quests? Same fetch quests as before.
New FATE's? Same as the old FATE's.
New jobs? ....didn't BRD get altered to match MCH? The mobility thing? Yeah.
New areas? Fantastic! No complaints!
Flying mounts? Yay! And I hate flying things in games!

I love the expansion, I'm having a literal ball over here. That doesn't mean I'm going to be happy with doing the same thing we've ben doing for 2 years just with a different coat of paint, a new name, and higher item levels. If 4.0 comes around(and I think it will) and it's the same shit once again, this game will bleed subs. There's no way it couldn't.

Nobody wants that.

XI fanboys boil down to the pot calling the kettle black. They're angry at wow clones but they champion an everquest clone, it's nothing but a partisan debate and if you think the latter are a significant population and not a dying group of people who's mmo habits shouldn't be encouraged then lol you're delusional.