Thread: Please help me understand why i should continue to play a repeat of 2.0?

Originally Posted by Hyrist

As far as those who specifically seek a challenge, the Echo Bonus on any encounter can be clicked off, and there is now a "Minimum ilvl" feature to push for all instanced encounters - so further adjustments for those seeking challenges are being made.

And while this is a very good point, it will be thrown out. Why? Because this isn't what people mean by a "challenge". What they want is a shiny thing that 95% of the community wants but can't get.

Originally Posted by Mattia

More like didn't get to finish it.

didn't finish it lol. if that was the only problem they would have kept him on.

tanaka made a bad game yoshi p came in cleaned up his mess and made it the success it is today.

if the system works, why change it?

It is the exact reason why many mmo's are losing people and why world of Warcraft is losing people as well. They are trying new things that they think that is working to replace the old system that the majority of people still liked and enjoyed.

Maybe you should put gearing aside for a patch and enjoy something else like triple triad, chocobo racing or crafting for a change.

Originally Posted by Aqua_Amaiyo

I don't want to see players who "don't" have that time, punished because they don't.

Again, I see no punishment mechanic in the game for those who don't play frequently. In fact, there is more mechanics that benefit a player that comes in, plays a bit, logs off and waits for the next available day, than anything. Brief-but-frequent seems to best way to play, in fact. However even those who go on hiatus are typically bombarded with catch-up mechanics instilled into the game continually.

When it comes to FFXI, the main "Main" issue I had with XI was the amount of you must be this specific role, and do X amount of damage with X amount of mistakes, with X weapon, etc etc or boot etc etc. And it wasn't an "uncommon" thing, this was happening frequently.

Again, this is a mechanic of the players, not the game, or any game really. You will always encounter this type in the game, this or any others. It's a level of elitism you simply have to separate yourself from. I don't think mechanics from previous games, FFXI included, comes with this attitude-preloaded into it - that's simply the attitude of the players itself. You shouldn't base your logic in opposing something based off of what happened when it was introduced in a fundamentally different game a decade ago.

Hunts, for instance, have the exact opposite problem, buy in large, than a shoving people away from important ranked mobs, we have crowds gathering in excess waiting on still more, while in FFXI, "Claiming" the monster in question was the issue - making it an example of exclusivity to the extreme, rather than inclusiveness to the extreme.

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In the end I don't see the conflict or problem here. Players who are wanting challenge have it, they even have exclusive drops and gear - that will only be helpful in tackling challenges that would still be exclusive. And those challenges are simply additional 'modes' on top of a singular encounter already available for the more casual crowd to experience.

In this situation - stats are merely trophies.

I think our focus should be on how to improve community relations. FFXIV already does a good job of encouraging if not outright forcing players to be charitable.

I don't fill that way about the game, to be every update brings somthing new and fun to do and i've never felt that i did somthing due to needed somthing to do. The game can't be somthing completly new of ele it would not be the same game and story sould then be all over the place. But what do you mean you don't wont the same thing ? Do you have any idea of whay you would like out of this game? They could reinvent a hole bunch of things / add stuff what MMO'S have never had but what?

Insted of complaning you could say what you don't like and how you think SE could fix / add into the game with enoght backing from the comunity it could happen you neve know...

But i'm sorry to here you don't quite like how the game is going and I hope you might be able to come up with some good idea's on hiw to fix / add new things to the game that you and maybe others (including SE) might think it's a good idea?