Please help me understand why i should continue to play a repeat of 2.0?

**SkizzleofRagnarok** · 07-07-2015 10:27 PM

Cirgellon FFXI had all of that upon release almost nothing was given out in certain periods like it is here. If a new job came out they had tons of skills and abilities from start. Like Vanfrano said you are just falling into Yoshi Ps logic of presenting you stuff.

**Cirgellon** · 07-07-2015 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Cirgellon are you trying to be smart now? FFXI had all of that upon release almost nothing was given out in certain periods like it is here. If a new job came out they had tons of skills and abilities from start. Like Vanfrano said you are just falling into Yoshi Ps logic of presenting you stuff.

The new jobs here have a ton of skills too. I filled up 3 skill bars. 5hat game did add content. What are you talking about?

**ohmRICE** · 07-07-2015 10:44 PM

Why don't you just play FFXI then?
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**Millerna** · 07-07-2015 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Cirgellon FFXI had all of that upon release almost nothing was given out in certain periods like it is here. If a new job came out they had tons of skills and abilities from start. Like Vanfrano said you are just falling into Yoshi Ps logic of presenting you stuff.

You must've played a different FFXI .. When FFXI came out, the game was terrible (in fact, they almost gave up on it). Of course, that was the Japanese release, which came around a year before the US release, and the US release included Zilart.

Summoner (which wasn't in from the start, but got added prior to Zilart's release) only had Carbuncle as summon until Zilart came out.

Ninja was meant to be DPS, samurai was meant to be tank, that worked out well.

There were also plenty free content updates that were not expansions.

And there are plenty more examples that show FFXI was nowhere near perfect, as long as you take of those rose tinted glasses.

And of course, FFXI was a clone of EverQuest.

I enjoyed FFXI, in fact, I played since US release and only very recently closed my subscription. I enjoy FFXIV more though. (I also enjoyed EQ and DAoC, and heck, even WoW at times)

In the end though, you've already decided you don't like the game and no one is going to convince you otherwise.

**Furiea** · 07-07-2015 10:54 PM

If you are not happy playing the game... Just quit the game for a while and come back later when you feel comfortable.

I left the game when SE screw around with this Myth tome bullsh*t and when I came back there's still the poetic tome bullsh*t. after all that grinding I still only have 1 job fully geared in poetic gears and now they are 100% useless. the way LAW tomes are obtained is much much more acceptable imo... and Alexander loot are only slightly better (ilvl 190 vs ilvl 180 (upgraded LAW)

**Chihaya** · 07-07-2015 10:58 PM

As a previous FFXI player, I cannot bring myself to go back to that game.

It was truely too time consuming to get things done there.
No matter if it was just waiting for group in town, or gathering enough people to actually do something.
And this is coming from a person that led a low man Dynamis group for years when the level cap was 75 - we still needed a minimum 6 people to do any zone somewhat efficiently and had to gather 13 people for Shadow NMs in glacier and 17 people for animated shield. Not to mention the 3 day downtime between each dynamis runs. Here, going through DF and PF makes it much easier.
Nor was it that "fun" competing for land kings hours per day or farming sky/sea drops vs RMT. And having to work through the tier system of sky/sea/einherjar sometimes takes weeks to get to the top level.
I enjoy the casual pace of FFXIV, but it is not for you, you don't have to stay.

FFXI is still supported for people like you, I'm sure it is a wonderful game that I spent 10 years on, but I just can't bring myself back to it with the latest Seekers expansion.
FFXIV should not be a FFXI clone as it is marketed as a more casual game.

**Furiea** · 07-07-2015 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Millerna

Ninja was meant to be DPS, samurai was meant to be tank, that worked out well.

I enjoyed FFXI, in fact, I played since US release and only very recently closed my subscription.

In the end though, you've already decided you don't like the game and no one is going to convince you otherwise.

I want my Samurai back... I left FF11 the day I got my Black Belt. FF11 was too much of a grind back then and all that Guild point system.

**Millerna** · 07-07-2015 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Furiea

I want my Samurai back... I left FF11 the day I got my Black Belt. FF11 was too much of a grind back then and all that Guild point system.

I loved my samurai, but I miss dancer the most

**Furiea** · 07-07-2015 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Chihaya

As a previous FFXI player, I cannot bring myself to go back to that game.

It was truely too time consuming to get things done there.
No matter if it was just waiting for group in town, or gathering enough people to actually do something.
And this is coming from a person that led a low man Dynamis group for years when the level cap was 75

yea. while it does consume too much time I do miss the "adventure" element of FF11 and now we just ride/fly over everything. (which I am not complaining)
really hoping for bigger raid content that requires teamwork similar to Step of Faith.

**Havenae** · 07-07-2015 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

OP stuff...

You should basically be asking yourself why should you play ANY MMO then.

It's end game grind, no matter where you go. Some use different methods but the general activity is fundamentally the same. No one wants to discuss alternative because for some strange reason everyone correlates -time sink-, -grind- and the gear obtained by such as -prestige- and -skillfulness-

So we dont bother asking for a different way because most players are extremely narrowminded and generally lack foresight to see how proposals could be better. SE also has the tendency to get set in routine, so I wouldn't expect it to change even if there was an overwhelming majority asking for something different.

I can't give you a reason why you should stay. Either the game is fun for you or it isn't. If it isn't you should probably leave.

Which is the only time I will come anywhere close to the ignorance of most gamer fanchilds who will scream at you "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GTFO!"

Fun is a very important factor.

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