Thread: Please help me understand why i should continue to play a repeat of 2.0?

I have to agree with the majority here, the challenge in XI was the time spent waiting. My first MMO was XI, from UK release until about a year before Adoulin released, and I still have very fond memories of meeting new friends and going on adventures with them, enjoying the story. However I also remember the frustrations, waiting in jeuno for a exp party to try and get a level before the weekend was over, failing to setup my own parties because members wouldn't go without a BLM (pre-ToAU) or a RDM/BRD (port-ToAU).
Even trying to do missions, I had fun when they actually underway but the preparation and travel dwarfed the time spent fighting. Some content took some thought but a lot just boiled down to a zerg or manaburn.
Endgame I found to be the biggest chore, SO much waiting around and you could spend weeks without getting anything out of it, and the fights were not all that satisfying.

This waiting pattern was the same through each expansion, and yet I still loved that game but given the choice I'd stay with XIV. The pattern of collecting tomes maybe th same but the content changes, I get to enjoy it in a long or as short as a play session as I choose. Overcoming content gives me great satisfaction, and i have a tangable means to see my progress.

Sorry about formatting, on my mobile.

Certainly, from the looks of this thread I wouldn't mind if they incorporated quite a few elements from FF11. I think the changes would be generally well received.

I've seen a few replies that are you are not level 60 on all jobs so you still have alot to do. Here is the thing, I shouldnt feel i need to level all jobs to 60 just because I need something to do. I should feel I can progress on my 2-3 main classes i wish to play without feeling like ohh I'm pleasing your expectations of feeling like levling all jobs to level 60 is something to do when i dont even want to play 6 of these jobs. Remember what I said about this game promotes lazyness? I will just do Ravanna ex and bismarck ex when i get better gears and when other stuff gets nerfed with echo etc. You know why? Because I know its gonna happen. I remember when i devoted time to learn T1-T4 on our Dark Light gears I really thought ok Yoshi P can get a pass now he has something that I feel is right then echo game and everything else that made it not enjoyable.

Spare me the "you know you can turn echo off" There shouldnt have been an echo at all. What is the point of trying to learn patterns and trying to understand fights if its gonna be cakewalk later with handouts? I swear everytime I explain this I feel like people really enjoy free handouts and they are happy with getting everything for free with less effort of even bothering.
FFXIV killed anything that would make you feel you earned your levels gears acheivements and progress in general because 3 months later things will get nerfed tons of gears are replaced due to how fast people can level and beat content so the cycle repeats itself. Whats the point of doing any of this when i KNOW its gonna get nerfed in 2 months. So please tell me what difference it will make if I did something now or two months later?
I didn't experience any of this in FFXI ofcourse chains of promathia got nerfed ABIT not alot until Abyssea came and ruined it.

Cirgellon thats the thing what part of everything I've said so far just wont you get? Game is too easy and by easy it doesnt mean i have to be level 60 everything like thats a silly acheivement. I had all jobs at 99 except for ranger when abyssea came out I still only played 4 jobs total so the levling part is just having something to do because you ran out of things to do that are meant for your main jobs. Its not even about not like doing stuff its about I refuse to devote time to something that will be unrewarding and punishing me for learning something right now when 2 months later it will be way easier than the time i spent learning it now. How do you honestly approve of this and think this is OK is beyond my mind? Its pretty much saying I can play 2hs a day to catch up with what you do playing 4-6h a day how fair is that? Some people have FFXIV as a hobby so stop with the go outside do something just because it doesnt fit your world.

Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Cirgellon thats the thing what part of everything I've said so far just wont you get? Game is too easy and by easy it doesnt mean i have to be level 60 everything like thats a silly acheivement. I had all jobs at 99 except for ranger when abyssea came out I still only played 4 jobs total so the levling part is just having something to do because you ran out of things to do that are meant for your main jobs. Its not even about not like doing stuff its about I refuse to devote time to something that will be unrewarding and punishing me for learning something right now when 2 months later it will be way easier than the time i spent learning it now. How do you honestly

But you don't like your hobby. You also refuse to change said hobby. I'm pointint out how silly you are making yourself look...

Stop worrying about others and find something you enjoy...

Kind of silly to think people wouldn't like free handouts, no shit people like handouts it's less effort, it's biology to want stuff for little effort. However handouts do not help game, I agree that things should not be made easier just because an expansion came out. Challenge keeps the game fun. Handouts do not. Still I like handouts :P

Truth be told alot of the changes and updates to the game, and the things OP are complaining about brought 8 of my friends back to the game.....(horray for not being alone anymore!)