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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    XI fanboys boil down to the pot calling the kettle black. They're angry at wow clones but they champion an everquest clone, it's nothing but a partisan debate and if you think the latter are a significant population and not a dying group of people who's mmo habits shouldn't be encouraged then lol you're delusional.
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    This isnt even a FFXI fanboy thing it comes down to. I paid for 2.0 content with different skin pretty much. Handouts are given left to right that only favours a person that does not have alot of time and should you have alot of time and your hands and want to play this alot you will get punished in all ways possible. Look at the relic quest for example pretty much not even upgradable instead we get a new story to make a new quest. How much money you want to bet it is going to be exact the same thing as before due to lack of creativity? Regardless of what you say and its an MMORPG, FFXI was not this way and some things that are a grind challenge should have been as they are. The Zeta should just continue to expand from i135 and onwards. That will give old areas replay value for all new people aswell as it can make you feel you earned your relic (slightly).
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    Last edited by SkizzleofRagnarok; 07-09-2015 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok View Post
    This isnt even a FFXI fanboy thing it comes down to. I paid for 2.0 content with different skin pretty much.

    If you were expecting the game to change as dramatically as it did between 1.0 and 2.0 I don't know what to tell you. Of course an Expansion Pack is going to give more of the same. It's in the name. It's an expansion that builds upon what we have.
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    Instead of spending all your time on the forums crying, try spending it in game having fun maybe and not worrying about things, youll live a longer life
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    Wasnt exactly a button bloak on FFXI? It was just tactical if you want a super mash button megafest welcome to FFXIV.

    Why is it always the same funny replies you get from people when they run out of arguements. Just because you have an opinion you are crying/trolling/go quit the game etc...
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    It was useless bloat.

    Weaponskills were some of the worst offenders. With how many you actually had, 2 or 3 were actually useful outside of chainskill fodder. And so many spells were because they didn't know how to upgrade spells currently known, so instead you just kept stacking tier after tier. Cumbersome and not well planned out.

    And on that note:

    Plenty of missions (not quests) had you collecting random shite or doing some sort of overly convoluted task.
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    Last edited by Lewtskie; 07-09-2015 at 09:43 AM.

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    Like i said that take and learn from it create something unique not something thats already out and you are trying to take their consumer market by pretty much doing the same thing.
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    Well 14 DID try and throw loops and shit out there. Problem is that doing so isn't always a guaranteed success. I doubt Squeenix would have been up for another gamble like that.
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    If thats the case then why hear Yoshi P talk about he is trying to make a new creative and fun MMORPG when its exactly like everything else? These where his exact words so somewhere along the path you are kinda contradicting yourself as the executive director for an MMORPG. I know its hard trying to make something new just like that and get it to work I never said it was easy but build somewhere. If you used the lets make a WoW easy gameplay clone to get peoples attention thats awesome but then along the path form it differently. I'm sorry for beeing negative but he did a poor coca cola marketing stunt with 1.0 and most of us bought it for the better good in hopes of something better. In return most of us got stuck with FFXIV A Communism Reborn with Free handouts WoW Style.
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    Always people so quick to call "CONTRADICTION", but whatever.

    You have to see it this way, and to see this you really have to look at the big picture. The long term, essentially. To save the mess that was 1.X he had to go with something the was safe, structured and known to be successful. He needed a foundation. Can't keep trying to make something from out the blue. Yoshi's plan thus far has been using the simple, and functional mechanics that WoW has established. They are easy to understand and learn and this creates a gate for a fresh audience. He needed something that was going to make money. And from here, he can tweak and tinker, adding and changing things. Obviously you don't go for a suddenly radical shift. Slow and steady. So it's going to be long termed process.
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