Thread: 3.01 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Twilite

I hate inconsiderate people. Not everybody has what you have and can achieve things the same manner you have for whatever their reasons are….

Not sure how it's inconsiderate.

Everyone can gain access to the new dungeons and the newbie/expert bonus'. Not everyone has a FC though. Which, if you don't have one, I suggest getting one! Not just to leech tome bonus', but for the many other perks.

Originally Posted by Elim

Not sure how it's inconsiderate.

Everyone can gain access to the new dungeons and the newbie/expert bonus'. Not everyone has a FC though. Which, if you don't have one, I suggest getting one! Not just to leech tome bonus', but for the many other perks.

Im afraid it is being inconsiderate. Not everyone has the time to collect 3865~ tomes (yes, I counted them just for you) in a single day.
Not to mention unlike 2 weeks ago you arent going to get the new player bonus for every single dungeon you do either.


This isnt a discussion about how fast this would be to do in the future. (taking a week or two weeks to gear up to i170 isnt much time, compared to months of gameplay) But rather the stoic conclusion that taking your time in leveling in early heavensward (or perhaps more accurately, reducing your time at 60; and dungeon farming) does put you at a disadvantage with Alexanders release.

For some people there's more to the game then just raiding(but they do still enjoy raiding!), which is why SE said ''take your time to enjoy the game during these 2 weeks''.


On a sidenote:
What point is there to having an i160 dungeon set? Since you are farming those dungeons for the i170 set anyway.

Originally Posted by Allyrion

People who take their time will take their time to decide to go to the new raid as well.
It got held off so people wouldn't feel like rushing through leveling and gearing.
There's always going to be a difference of opinion over the amount of time is needed.

It got held off so people didnt feel like they had to choose between enjoying their leveling time, and rushing to max level/gearing law to be in time for the raid.

This is not an argument between casual and hardcore as some seem to think. It's about enjoying one form of content (leveling) vs enjoying another form of content (raiding).


The hardcore argument is only being brought up since some people insist that getting to level 60 in a day, and gearing up to i170 in the same day is the norm.
(which ironically, oh so very ironically; makes me wonder just how little life some people have)

On a sidenote:
What point is there to having an i160 dungeon set? Since you are farming those dungeons for the i170 set anyway.

Well, that's sort of the point - to get you interim gear.

That said I think the biggest awkwardness in going to i170 right now is that there is Only One Method At All. Crafted gear doesn't fit. Dungeon drops are insufficient. Hunts just jump that gear up further. The only exception is the Primals and that's solely for weapon slot. It's just... kinda awkward. Like, would it really have been so bad to cut Law Tomestone stuff down ten levels (and everything following similarly)? Because for being brand new gear the i160 feels just kinda... pointless. Nonfunctional. Etc.

Originally Posted by Adventica6

Hello, so were the brd/mch changes great or no? how important is 10% dmg compared to the lower potency on skill changes? if it is a strong dmg boost to both classes then that's a great thing.

To my understanding, yes. The loss of potency on those skills is evened out largely by the extra % damage (It's slightly lower in every case though), while everything else is stronger. The big one though is that you can swap into Wanderer's/Gauss instantly now, so swapping on the fly is an actual legitimate option now, whereas before the cast time meant you were almost always better off comitting to one or the other. This frees them up to optimize their play and might actually have a bigger impact than the +10% potency.

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

only 3 achievement of map, means 3 floor.
fist, cuff and arm.

BCob only has an achievement for four out of five turns, SCoB only has three out of four, and FCoB only has two out of four.

Originally Posted by Aeyis

It got held off so people didnt feel like they had to choose between enjoying their leveling time, and rushing to max level/gearing law to be in time for the raid.

This is not an argument between casual and hardcore as some seem to think. It's about enjoying one form of content (leveling) vs enjoying another form of content (raiding).

You just repeated what I said. It gave enough time to do that.
You only need to be "in time for the raid" if you care about the progression race.
People who play that way had enough time to experience the leveling fully and gear up in time for that.
This is opposed to the race starting as soon as launch happened.

Like people who care about the race still have to put raiding as their priority.
This allowed people who want to be on the cutting edge to not have to skip everything while leveling.
But those type of players are still the ones with more time and dedication to raiding.


You can enjoy raiding and you're not at any "disadvantage" if you wanted more time.
You only need to be on time if you're trying to race progression. Otherwise, the raid is available whenever you're ready.
So those people can enjoy their leveling and then enjoy their raiding. What's the issue?

Holding it off so the race doesn't start at launch was a good thing. But artificially gating it for too long is bad.
There are some people who've farmed out the Ex Primals, and are just waiting for Alexander to open.
It shouldn't be held back because there are other people experiencing other things. They can experience those things and then go raid when they feel like it.

It really only got held off so that the leveling experience wasn't obsolete for people who cared about being cutting edge.
Since those are the people who have the most time and dedication to the game, 2 weeks was enough so that the story content wasn't obsolete on launch.
If someone is later than that, well they shouldn't expect to be on the cutting edge anyway.
They should just enjoy the content on their own time, instead of asking for more of an extended gate and holding back the players who are already prepared.

Originally Posted by Aeyis

Im afraid it is being inconsiderate. Not everyone has the time to collect 3865~ tomes (yes, I counted them just for you) in a single day.

Never said everyone has the time to collect them all in one day. I said they were quick and easy to farm. And it's true. Gear costs a lot less tomes than past sets. And dungeons give more tomes than ever before. Never mind the bonus'.

Still not sure how what I said was inconsiderate. I'm not trying to be "sassy" either. I legit don't get it.