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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles View Post
    So many patches have past and still no option do default to 'commence' when using Duty Finder. Please SE, this needs to be a higher priority.
    Why the heck would they add that option? So more people can AFK queue? No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexia89 View Post
    Why the heck would they add that option? So more people can AFK queue? No thanks.
    I think you're confused about what I'm asking for. I'm asking to have the option to not have the cursor default to "wait" wen the duty pops so I have to press left and then X to enter instead of just pressing X like I used to be able to. It won't automatically take you into the duty when it pops.

    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    I don't even know how that would be a priority. I'm sorry to diminish your opinion, but moving your mouse slightly to the left or pressing the left on the D-pad is hardly an inconvenience.
    I play with controller. And the difference between pressing 2 buttons instead of 1 is exactly the difference between a good UI and a bad one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles View Post
    I think you're confused about what I'm asking for. I'm asking to have the option to not have the cursor default to "wait" wen the duty pops so I have to press left and then X to enter instead of just pressing X like I used to be able to. It won't automatically take you into the duty when it pops.



    I play with controller. And the difference between pressing 2 buttons instead of 1 is exactly the difference between a good UI and a bad one.
    No I know exactly what you meant, and my original statement stands.
    You know why it doesn't default to that? It's friggen astonishingly easy to rig the X button on your control to repeatedly fire- same with the 0 button on numpad.
    With the kind of system you want, people could queue and go afk without worry of copping a lockout. Yeah, they may get kicked from a dungeon once people realise they're afk- but up until that point they'll still get exp for monsters killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexia89 View Post
    No I know exactly what you meant, and my original statement stands.
    You know why it doesn't default to that? It's friggen astonishingly easy to rig the X button on your control to repeatedly fire- same with the 0 button on numpad.
    With the kind of system you want, people could queue and go afk without worry of copping a lockout. Yeah, they may get kicked from a dungeon once people realise they're afk- but up until that point they'll still get exp for monsters killed.
    Because this was such a huge issue pre 2.5... right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexia89 View Post
    Why the heck would they add that option? So more people can AFK queue? No thanks.
    So you are not waiting in a queue for 40 minutes only to have it activate when your going to the toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    So you are not waiting in a queue for 40 minutes only to have it activate when your going to the toilet.
    personally I leave the queue when I know I will be away for more than 15 sec. But that's just me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    So you are not waiting in a queue for 40 minutes only to have it activate when your going to the toilet.
    That sucks and all, and I'm sure all dps players have done it at some point.
    Still, that means you weren't really there when it started.

    That would only encourage mostly dps players to queue and be able to go afk for some amount of time.
    Only to find out their queue possibly popped sooner than expected, and for the rest of the party to be down one player.
    Maybe it didn't pop, then they go away again and it does in that space.

    You really should be present if the queue comes up to be able to go in.
    If you really wait on your queue, this shouldn't happen that much.
    It will benefit people who really leave their queue because they assume it won't pop soon, more than the people who wait 40 mins and go away for a second and miss it.
    It would even encourage the former for longer queue times.

    I queue as dps so I get that waiting for the queue is a bit restricting, but I'd much rather that than the system accept and enter the instance without even knowing if they're there at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post

    You really should be present if the queue comes up to be able to go in.
    If you really wait on your queue, this shouldn't happen that much.
    Don't get me wrong here. I have the hours to spend just waiting in front of the queue. For that matter I only heal or tank; so queues are only seconds for me anyway. But im sure many people dont have that time to sit in front of the queue literally every second. Having an auto enter function would be immensely helpful for a ton of people I reckon.

    Afking for a long time can be easily countered by just asking for a confirmation to stay in the queue every (fixed amount of) x minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    So you are not waiting in a queue for 40 minutes only to have it activate when your going to the toilet.
    You're not describing the same problem as the gent I quoted. He's saying he wants his cursor to default to "commence" rather than withdraw when the popup appears, so he can just hit one button to enter.
    In that case, as long as his TV isn't muted and he hears the pop- he can simply take the controller and press -> X and enter. Really no need for a change, and pressing one extra button isn't an issue.
    On PC, well- if i have to piss I just unplug my headset so I hear the pop. If i have to do more than piss... I leave the queue.

    What you seem to be asking for is an auto-commence, which would be even worse than having the cursor default to commence. The afk would be real.
    WTF are you queuing for that you wait for 40 mins for? Why not just throw up a PF or get a healer/tank friend to help speed the pops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Having an auto enter function would be immensely helpful for a ton of people I reckon.
    Yeah. AFKers. No 'confirmation to stay in queue' is going to stop them. Or hey- imagine this. You queue for expert roulette. 2 minutes later, an S rank or Proto-Ultima spawn on your server. You get excited!
    Then your queue pops, all 4 of you have auto-commence selected. Bye bye S rank / Proto-Ultima.
    Sure, you could leave immediately- and have a 30 min lockout to look forward to and no guarantee you're going to make it to the S rank. Coz let's face it, in the time it took you to enter, leave, teleport to the zone and find a group- it died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles View Post
    So many patches have past and still no option do default to 'commence' when using Duty Finder. Please SE, this needs to be a higher priority.

    I don't even know how that would be a priority. I'm sorry to diminish your opinion, but moving your mouse slightly to the left or pressing the left on the D-pad is hardly an inconvenience.
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