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    SuddenStorm8's Avatar
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    Ryu Dragonheart
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Goad is a piece of raid utility, and one that I find is rarely used as it is.
    A good NIN will goad a MNK or BRD in their party before they even use their first invig then goad the MT as soon as it comes off cd.
    A bad NIN wont use goad unless someone asks for TP.
    A terrible NIN wont use goad at all even if someone asks for it.

    Unfortunately in any DF group the first of the three examples is beyond rare and if NINs were able to goad themselves the latter two would only use it on themselves.
    I think what would work best is making goad more appealing to use beyond helping the team. For example a trait that causes the NIN to gain the effect of goad at 50% effectiveness when used on a party member (Call it Goading as they are goading an ally on or something) and as the NIN will get this every time they use goad (where as you will be using goad on different party members each time) it will be as if they could goad themselves.
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    Altena's Avatar
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    Altena Trife
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuddenStorm8 View Post
    a trait that causes the NIN to gain the effect of goad at 50% effectiveness when used on a party member
    This would be gold, in all honesty. Not only would it encourage the use of Goad, but it would also improve NIN's TP starvation issues (which are very real in fights that are worth a damn).
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SuddenStorm8 View Post
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    Very nice suggestion here

    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    I haven't ran into tp issues in 60 lvls, there is a right and wrong time to pop invigorate. Even with nins high skill speed, doing mudras every 20sec pauses their tp expenditure temporarily negating it. If tp was an issue for nins you would be hearing about it and seeing it first hand, which isn't the case.
    Have you done the WoD dragon fight in a lowish dps group without running low on TP? Maybe I'm just often in extremely terrible DPS groups. The fight normally lasts a while for me.

    If so, please share your secret. I Invig at 570 TP and again when the CD is done and still often run low. The 60 NIN in my LS attested to being TP starved very quickly with the higher skill speed now in game.
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