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    I'm not convinced Craftsman's Competence Materia III can actually drop from sector SC07. It's an outlier, with only two reports, and one of them was translated from German and the translator could have easily confused the word that means competence with command or cunning. Dropping that outlier and the other others one-offs that look like they were typos, we get a really clean list. Each sector has the following slots and only the following slots:
    1. Schematic Material
    2. FC Crafting Material
    3. Common Crafting Material
    4. Unique Housing/Minion Crafting Material
    5. Materia type 1
    6. Materia type 2
    7. Crystal 1
    8. Crystal 2
    This means every sector has exactly eight items it can drop. The following caveats and clarifications apply:
    • Schematic Materials follow a strict progression from SC01-SC16.
    • In sectors after SC16, the Schematic Material slot is filled by Dusk Leather instead.
    • FC Crafting Materials follow a strict progression from SC01-SC16.
    • In sectors after SC16, the FC Crafting Material slot alternates between Red, Green, and Blue Clusters in that order (RGB), repeating over and over.
    • The Common Crafting Materials follow a set pattern which repeats over and over: Ferberite, Gold Ore, Platinum Ore, Scarlet Sap, Birch Branch, Dark Chestnut Branch.
    • The Unique Housing/Minion Crafting Materials do not appear to have a pattern (will look more into that later).
    • In sectors SC01-SC10, only grade III materia can drop.
    • In sectors after SC10, both grade III and IV materia of each of the two types can drop.
    • In sectors located on the left third of the map, Earth and Ice Crystals drop.
    • In sectors located on the middle third of the map, Lightning and Wind Crystals drop.
    • In sectors located on the right third of the map, Fire and Water Crystals drop.

    To this end, I'm moving Dusk Leather to the Schematic Material slot and renaming it "Schematic / Special."


    EDIT: By the way, when I say "removing outliers," I'd like to point out how many items would have to be typos for everything I've said in this post (and the last one) to be correct. Out of 668 logged voyages, each with 1-8 items obtained (average of ~4 per voyage would give ~2,600 items obtained), exactly 7 of them don't fit the patterns described above. Would anyone mind if I either moved the voyages containing these seven outliers to another part of the sheet that was not considered for our analyses, or if I just replaced the outliers with non-outliers that they could have been? (water/wind mixups due to auto-complete, ice/water mixups due to the graphic being the same, etc)



    EDIT2: Also, I wanted to say that there are now exactly 7 holes in the quick reference spreadsheet from sectors SC01-SC22: the unique items from SC18 and SC22, which crystal pairs drop from SC18 and SC21 (they're right on the line), and what the second type of materia is from SC22 (it's either Guerdon or Grasp).
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 09-02-2015 at 07:52 AM. Reason: Added notes on the common crafting mats
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
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    this world needs more people like you that can decipher these patterns. Great work, and yes it's quite useful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
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    Good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    [*]In sectors after SC16, the Schematic Material slot is filled by Dusk Leather instead.
    In SC17 Dusk Leather can be found twice:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    I'm not convinced Craftsman's Competence Materia III can actually drop from sector SC07.
    I decided to remove this from the guide, as per your recommendation. Thinking about it a little bit, it would be better to not report an item that *is* there than make an error the other way (report an item there when it actually isn't). Worst case, someone eventually does confirm it is there and we can add it back in. The worst case of reporting an item that isn't actually there is potentially have people waste their time if that is what they are targeting.

    What are your thoughts on sector 3 in the guide, are any of the materia there unreliable?
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    Last edited by BonzaiFerroni; 09-03-2015 at 03:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post
    What are your thoughts on sector 3 in the guide, are any of the materia there unreliable?
    I totally agree. Check the quick reference sheet for the nearly filled out grid with only the aforementioned four holes left (only one of which is a materia). Here's the materia list from that sheet:

    Code:
    Sector	Materia Type 1				Materia Type 2
    ------	--------------				--------------
     SC01	Dexterity Materia III			Vitality Materia III
     SC02	Battledance Materia III			Quicktongue Materia III
     SC03	Craftsman's Command Materia III		Craftsman's Competence Materia III
     SC04	Gatherer's Grasp Materia III		Gatherer's Guile Materia III
     SC05	Savage Might Materia III		Vitality Materia III
    
     SC06	Piety Materia III			Quicktongue Materia III
     SC07	Craftsman's Command Materia III		Craftsman's Cunning Materia III
     SC08	Mind Materia III			Savage Aim Materia III
     SC09	Quickarm Materia III			Strength Materia III
     SC10	Gatherer's Guerdon Materia III		Gatherer's Guile Materia III
    
     SC11	Intelligence Materia III/IV		Quicktongue Materia III/IV
     SC12	Dexterity Materia III/IV		Heaven's Eye Materia III/IV
     SC13	Craftsman's Competence Materia III/IV	Craftsman's Cunning Materia III/IV
     SC14	Intelligence Materia III/IV		Heaven's Eye Materia III/IV
     SC15	Vitality Materia III/IV			Savage Aim III/IV
    
     SC16	Gatherer's Grasp Materia III/IV		Gatherer's Guerdon Materia III/IV
     SC17	Craftsman's Command Materia III/IV	Craftsman's Competence Materia III/IV
     SC18	Strength Materia III/IV			Quickarm Materia III/IV
     SC19	Mind Materia III/ IV			Piety Materia III/IV
     SC20	Dexterity Materia III/IV		Battledance Materia III/IV
    
     SC21	Quicktongue Materia III/IV		Savage Might Materia III/IV
     SC22	Gatherer's Guile Materia III/IV		Gatherer's Grasp Materia III/IV
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 09-03-2015 at 10:09 PM. Reason: Filled in last hole
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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