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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Regarding sector ratings and retrieval ratings, have you actually done that analysis? When I did, I found it rather inconclusive. But, it's a hard test to do, because higher retrieval ratings often also mean higher favor ratings, and that's what I believe actually affect the sector ratings.
    To Nyalia's point I think that the proper way to do the experiment is to send ships with different components to a single sector to see how the retrieval stat works on items gained/quality of items. I also believe that it'll clearly take more than a few flights to really start to get how it works. I would suggest a sector like Sectors 5, 6, or 7 in which an FC could benefit from the deep crystals for FC buffs (you'll find you can never have enough of these) while also determining the question about stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post
    Not sure if you are asking me or Aeyis, but I haven't. Along with the favor confounding factor, I don't think it is possible with the sector difficulty confounding factor. I was planning to do more tests on a single sector once we had progressed through the map and our airships were free for more experimentation. We could do a more controlled series of tests, and anyone who is also interested and has a free airship can contribute their data as well.
    It seems that Bonzai and I are on the same page as far as how the experiment needs to be run We're getting close to having our 3rd airship at a point where we can start farming more of the deep color crystals so I might be able to start collecting data on that. There's still however the confounding factor of rank (if it's even a factor) until all ships are at 50 to be mindful of. I think a clean spreadsheet of results would be helpful in regards to this experiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcticharm View Post
    To Nyalia's point I think that the proper way to do the experiment is to send ships with different components to a single sector to see how the retrieval stat works on items gained/quality of items. I also believe that it'll clearly take more than a few flights to really start to get how it works. I would suggest a sector like Sectors 5, 6, or 7 in which an FC could benefit from the deep crystals for FC buffs (you'll find you can never have enough of these) while also determining the question about stats.
    I think that's a really good idea! I'd say sector SC05 would be the best candidate, as both "Heat of Battle II" and "Reduced Rates II" require Deep Red Crystals, and I feel like those are among the most common buffs to use. Though, SC06 has Shrub Seedlings and SC07 has grade 3 crafter materia, but I still think SC05 is the best choice of those.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    I think that's a really good idea! I'd say sector SC05 would be the best candidate, as both "Heat of Battle II" and "Reduced Rates II" require Deep Red Crystals, and I feel like those are among the most common buffs to use. Though, SC06 has Shrub Seedlings and SC07 has grade 3 crafter materia, but I still think SC05 is the best choice of those.
    I'm on board! We also have plenty of data on this sector with lower ranks, so we could include that as a separate analysis (to rule out whether rank has any contribution to results) \o/ It will also cost less fuel, with 4 airships, we are all probably starting to feel the cost of fuel =D

    I don't think we need a new spreadsheet, we will use all of the same info. Maybe just a "notes" column to indicate which lines are intended to be part of the analysis. Of course this decision is best left with our Master of Spreadsheets.
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