Airship Guide

[BonzaiFerroni]

If anyone cares, here's the actual formula for how long a trip takes...

So interesting, thank you for exploring that question in depth! \o/ I've added a link to your excellent write-up in the OP.

Hey, in relation to FC crafting, has anyone else noticed that when you finish phase 1 or phase 2, the quality shown drops from whatever it was out of 100 to 0/100 when the advance option is given?

I'm about 5 pages behind in the thread (I want to read every post ;D) so maybe this has already been addressed, but I've always interpreted that 0/100 as being the progress on the next phase (the one you will advance to), rather than the one you are currently on. I've always found it a tad annoying because you don't get to see the currently quality status before advancing if the hand-in window has already been closed XD

Is this true about the HQ items? I thought that they had a chance to give a higher quality increase but could still give normal or no quality increase. Is it really just tied to item level?

It's quite true, HQ will not influence your gains! We spent some time turning in both HQ and NQ and found that the average gains were nearly identical. In addition, item level does nothing to influence your score. You have the same chance to increase quality turning in iron ingots as you do garlond steel

The actual gains are influenced by the number of hand-ins possible for a given phase. For example, if you get Outstanding or Excellent progress, your gains during that phase will actually be higher to compensate for the fewer amount of hand-ins available. You'll also notice this difference during phases that require 5-6 items rather than 4, you'll see smaller gains to compensate for the increased number of chances.

There seem to be four different possibilities, none, low, medium, and high. On a typical phase (4 items, 3 handins per item, 12 total chances to increase quality), they have the following values:

none: 0 points
low: 6 points
med: 12 points
high: 18 points

I really love this guide! Thanks for all the hard work putting it together. I don't know if its been reported yet but I got Far Eastern Coins from sector 16

Much appreciated! \o/ And i've added your report to the table!

i also go ta Far Eastern Coin from sector 3

That empty cell in the table has been bugging me for a long time, thank you for the update!

Also, so far, only one sector has dropped more than 2 types of Materia (SC07 with all three Grade 3 crafting materia). All the other sectors only drop two different types (though any that drop a IV can drop the III of that type as well). Each sector also has only 2 types of crystals, with some one-off outliers that might be typos (wind and water crystals are easy to mix up due to Google Doc's autocorrect, and Ice and Water share an icon).

I appreciate that analysis very much. Let me know if you come to any conclusions about inaccuracies in the table in the OP, I can adjust. I've tried to share those google drawings docs with you in case you felt like making edits yourself but I don't have your email address.

Oh thank you Aeyis, it was exactly that. i didn't saw the message on the log but i was able to register the 3rd airship

Oh good to hear! It actually seems like unlocking airships is not like unlocking sectors, and that there is a 100% chance upon visiting the sector the first time. Let me know if anyone observes differently.

See? I knew Nyalia would have some form of solution planned

Yep, she's amazing XD We are lucky to have her managing our data!

[Magistrella]

I'll make a new sheet and send you an invite, will notify you via PM

PMs? Where?

Thats a serious question, i was like... "no PM button, meh" since the beginning of these forums xD

Oh! Sorry, hadn't realized that had happened. If this continues being a problem, I'll create a secondary back-up sheet with the a copy of the public log tab so people can still enter logs while unable to edit the main sheet. If I do that, I'll add a link to the cover page.

EDIT: Also, access is present, though it could be sporadic. Anonymous users are still making edits, the last one being made just eight minutes ago.

Aye, can access it again, probably due to the low traffic at this time of the day. If it happens too often - i dont know if that function is present in google docs, havent played around that deep with it yet - can't you send out access to single pages? Or will people be able to edit everything when you invite them? x.x

Anyways, finally i can add in the trip from yesterday evening ;x

Btw i think i found out partially what Surveillance does... i went back to Bronco parts (due to getting a second Airship and those were cheap on the MB 900k for 2 parts) and my surveillance dropped from 90 to 62 - in all sectors i visited i got the message "Found another deposite but ships capabilities are too low to commence) You'll see that in the second log of the "Voyager"

Just my theory, but its probably the main stat for getting a second item and pretty important x.x

[IrealiTY]

To add to the loot table: Fire Crystals and Gatherers Guerdon IV Materia from Sector 16

Which ship parts do you have build in?

[Malus_Odius]

Sector 19 - Iron Giant Cores

[IrealiTY]

Did anyone figure out a "BiS" for a lvl 50 Ship?

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Without knowing exactly what each stat does (except perhaps Speed) ... we can't make any such determination at all.

Besides, if these are the airships we use in 3.1 on that new manned airship exploration thing, I've a sneaking suspicion that the stat requirements for those are going to be different from the stat requirements for simple unmanned (mammet only) seek-and-recover-whatever missions.

[Magistrella]

Did anyone figure out a "BiS" for a lvl 50 Ship?

Seein how far away the higher level sectors are it all depends what you want to do really. One Sector to unlock new stuff? Multiple Sectors? High Item gain?

Personally I was playing around with the builder and came out with Tatanora Hull - Enterprise Rigging - Odyssey Forecastle and Bronco Aftcastle

Stats: 126 Survey 62 Retrieval 98 Speed 132 Range 106 Favor

I went that way because even normal retrieval levels are bringing back nice amounts, high survey for multiple items, high range so i can visit 4-5 sectors and medium speed so it doesn't take longer then needed.

How it works out in the end - give me another 6 month and ill have a clear answer for you XD even now we don't know what most of the stats do :/

[Aeyis]

Retrieval levels directly effect your ''retrieval level'' on an item. With that low retrieval you will likely only get ''disappointing retrieval levels'' at the gold sectors. I wouldnt advice going for a build like that unless literally your only concern is discovering new sectors.

[Magistrella]

Retrieval levels directly effect your ''retrieval level'' on an item. With that low retrieval you will likely only get ''disappointing retrieval levels'' at the gold sectors. I wouldnt advice going for a build like that unless literally your only concern is discovering new sectors.

There is no data to support that yet. All Ships had at least 90+ retrieval when they visited SC15 or higher and in all the data recorded there isn't a single retrieval recording that is anything less then normal retrieval levels.

[MysticSpirit]

Piety Materia IV from Sector 19, Normal Retrieval Level is 4.