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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody View Post
    (which in turn reduces your chances of a repeat because of the 1/3rd or 2/3rd reduction in materials needed gives less chance for quality boosts)
    This right here is what makes this annoying. We only try to HQ items for the phase BEFORE one with a lot of expensive items in it to try to reduce our costs. This may mean doing low quality items in phase 1 just so that we have more chances for quality increases in the last phase. (just an example)


    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody View Post
    Each time you turn in items for progress, you have a random chance to gain a variable amount of quality, anything from 7-18 average. Quality of materials turned in has no effect. Level of materials does seem to have an effect. For example, turning in Varnish may get you 7-12 progress, but mythrite ingots may get you 18-20. I've gotten as high as 36 quality off one turn-in before, and I've also done 12 turn-ins with 0 quality gain before as well.
    Is this true about the HQ items? I thought that they had a chance to give a higher quality increase but could still give normal or no quality increase. Is it really just tied to item level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcticharm View Post
    Is this true about the HQ items? I thought that they had a chance to give a higher quality increase but could still give normal or no quality increase. Is it really just tied to item level?
    We have noticed no difference in quality gains between using HQ and NQ items. We've had 90/100 from all NQ, and we've had 20/100 from all HQ. It's very, very random, and there's no indication that HQ affects quality gains.

    I believe HQ just gives you double experience, just like all turn-ins. Now, if only the exp gains weren't trivial... double nearly nothing is still nearly nothing. I used to try to give mats to lower level crafters so they could get experience from the turn-ins, but then I looked at the numbers, and there's just no reason to bother.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Just send the airship on sector 14 but it didn't unlocked airship 3...

    Is that normal ?

    Or at list i didn't see the message in the log...
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    Last edited by Eldeniel; 08-19-2015 at 05:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldeniel View Post
    Just send the airship on sector 14 but it didn't unlocked airship 3...

    Is that normal ?

    Or at list i didn't see the message in the log...
    See the Airship as another sector unlock - you might get it but you probably wont on your first try (except if youre lucky) :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldeniel View Post
    Just send the airship on sector 14 but it didn't unlocked airship 3...

    Is that normal ?

    Or at list i didn't see the message in the log...
    Sometimes it doesnt show in the log. Finally discovered another sector, but it didnt show in the log for some reason. Also a bit funny is that our second airship seems to have been the one to discover it.

    Yeah. So far behind the second airship is discovering sectors, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by LilPhist View Post
    I discovered sector 20 from the above trip, but not 18. So first time exploration of sectors 12, 15, 16, and 19 resulted in discovering their locked sectors. New flight of 17, 20, & 19 with a flight time of 81 hrs, 9 mins. Hope to get both 18 and 21 unlocked this run.
    That means you were super lucky. I've done 10~ trips to sector 11 and only just now did one of the two sectors unlock from there. 4 trips to sector 12 so far without result.
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    Oh thank you Aeyis, it was exactly that. i didn't saw the message on the log but i was able to register the 3rd airship
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    We have noticed no difference in quality gains between using HQ and NQ items. We've had 90/100 from all NQ, and we've had 20/100 from all HQ. It's very, very random, and there's no indication that HQ affects quality gains.

    I believe HQ just gives you double experience, just like all turn-ins. Now, if only the exp gains weren't trivial... double nearly nothing is still nearly nothing. I used to try to give mats to lower level crafters so they could get experience from the turn-ins, but then I looked at the numbers, and there's just no reason to bother.
    Lower-level crafters will get a lot more experience than high-level crafters. Where as most turn ins show me anything from a few hundred to a few thousand exp (lol) my FC mates report exp gains of 10-20k which is still small but 10 times the amount I see as a reward, so it has something to do with craft vs recipe levels for sure. Also my results are the same in terms of NQ vs HQ. I've honestly had more luck with NQ stuff giving good quality gains which is quite sad. I've also never seen extra quality from HQ vs NQ, but I have not done a significant amount of testing on it because well, there is no auto-HQ quick synth =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody View Post
    Lower-level crafters will get a lot more experience than high-level crafters. Where as most turn ins show me anything from a few hundred to a few thousand exp (lol) my FC mates report exp gains of 10-20k which is still small but 10 times the amount I see as a reward, so it has something to do with craft vs recipe levels for sure. Also my results are the same in terms of NQ vs HQ. I've honestly had more luck with NQ stuff giving good quality gains which is quite sad. I've also never seen extra quality from HQ vs NQ, but I have not done a significant amount of testing on it because well, there is no auto-HQ quick synth =P
    Oh! That's really good to know. I just assumed everyone got the same amount, and all the numbers were in the hundreds for me. Thanks for letting me know that lower level crafters get more for some reason, unlike all other turnins xD
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Oh! That's really good to know. I just assumed everyone got the same amount, and all the numbers were in the hundreds for me. Thanks for letting me know that lower level crafters get more for some reason, unlike all other turnins xD
    I think the xp shown is xp per item delivered, not per turn-in. I noticed that I got around 9 times the xp shown when I did a turn-in of 6 items with 50% rested bonus.
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