Airship Guide

[super_aardvark]

Following up on my previous post, our next two voyages:

Visit sector 05 (only), Rank 19->20, unlock 07.
Visit sector 07 (only), Rank 20->21, unlock 08.

Enterprise Forecastle, Invincible Rigging, Bronco Hull and Aftcastle.
Previously made at least 2 voyages to 05 (not alone) without unlocking anything, plus one which unlocked 06. Those were all made with Enterprise Fore, but don't know which Aft (Bronco/Invincible).

The idea that the unlocks are tied to rank is, I'm pretty sure, incorrect. We unlocked sector 04 before we were high enough rank to go there, while sector 05 wasn't unlocked until after we exceeded the min rank by one or two. Meanwhile, a friend's FC unlocked sector 05 at a lower rank. I'm fairly certain you need to explore a certain sector or sectors (associated by proximity on the map) in order to unlock new sectors. If Exploration (or any other stat) is a factor, I'd guess that it contributes to an RNG roll, rather than straight-up determining the unlock.

[BonzaiFerroni]

Following up on my previous post, our next two voyages:

Visit sector 05 (only), Rank 19->20, unlock 07.
Visit sector 07 (only), Rank 20->21, unlock 08.

Interesting that you took the trip to a single sector, and that also helps us rule out the theory that its a trip from one sector to another that is necessary for the unlock.

The idea that the unlocks are tied to rank is, I'm pretty sure, incorrect. We unlocked sector 04 before we were high enough rank to go there, while sector 05 wasn't unlocked until after we exceeded the min rank by one or two. Meanwhile, a friend's FC unlocked sector 05 at a lower rank. I'm fairly certain you need to explore a certain sector or sectors (associated by proximity on the map) in order to unlock new sectors. If Exploration (or any other stat) is a factor, I'd guess that it contributes to an RNG roll, rather than straight-up determining the unlock.

I think you are right. Many people, including us, found sector 11 long before we could go there. It seems most likely right now that the forecastle upgrade helps. It seems like the invincible forecastle is at least enough to unlock up to sector 11. I'm still really interested in reading other speculation and observations about this!

Might I ask, what ranks are you generally getting with your bronco aftcastle? Also, with your enterprise forecastle, how often do you see this message: Additional anomalies detected. However, airship condition found insufficient for further exploration.

Sector 9 - Raw Celestine
Sector 8 - Raw Celestine, "High-quality" Iron Giant Core (needed for armorer crafted minion)

Awesome, always great to find those new items! We've also found raw celestine, I did some looking and you can use it to make Celestine lvl 54 recipe, GSM, master recipe book. This is similar to garlond steel and farreach canvas, so maybe something that will be needed for future airship parts?

With our upgraded surveillance (80), first trip to sector 04 found sector 05.

Did you happen to visit sector 2 in that trip? I noticed that sector 2 is closest to 5 on the map, so I supposed that it was the sector that unlocked 5. This was a pure guess. I noticed that when you get the unlock message in your flight log, it comes after the sector that unlocks it, just after the message that you've changed course to the next sector.

[Enseric]

Awesome, always great to find those new items! We've also found raw celestine, I did some looking and you can use it to make Celestine lvl 54 recipe, GSM, master recipe book. This is similar to garlond steel and farreach canvas, so maybe something that will be needed for future airship parts?

You need Celestine for 4th tier of Airship parts (Invincible II). You need 9 Celestine and 9 Garlond Steel for every Invincible II part

[Nyalia]

Did you happen to visit sector 2 in that trip? I noticed that sector 2 is closest to 5 on the map, so I supposed that it was the sector that unlocked 5. This was a pure guess. I noticed that when you get the unlock message in your flight log, it comes after the sector that unlocks it, just after the message that you've changed course to the next sector.

Yes, but the message appeared after it said changing course to sector 04. Maybe it appears at the end instead of the beginning? If so, the message is misleading... Now that you mention it, yeah, I'm starting to think that I misreported that. Maybe when it goes something like
<sector 02 report>
<sector 02 rating>
<timestamp>
Changing Course to Sector 04
Sector 05 discovered!
<sector 04 report>

it actually means you discovered Sector 05 in Sector 02, it's just putting the message in a confusing spot. Or maybe it's because you changed course from 02 toward 04? I think I'll amend the airship log to better mark where a new sector is found...

Also, I'll remove from the spreadsheet the "second item found" thing. If you found a second item, fill out the second item section. If not, don't. It seems there is always a second item, but sometimes you do get it and sometimes you don't. I have never seen a case where there was no second item found.

For some reason you can add more than 1000 characters when you edit a post after you initially post it! I agree, that is a silly thing XD It is why my posts tend to "grow" over time

For 99% of my posts, I write up the post, ctrl-a, ctrl-x, then actually post "asdfasdfasdf" <_< then edit, ctrl-a, ctrl-v, save. I'm just waiting for the day someone catches me in the middle of that and replies to my "asdfasdfasdf" post xD Sometimes, I post "placeholder" instead, which is just long enough to count, and less embarrassing if someone actually sees it.