Airship Guide

[Nyalia]

Just a reminder to beware making generalizations from small sample sizes. It's a common logical fallacy, especially around here. Correlation does not imply causation, but it does imply correlation. Small sample size correlation, however, could just as easily be coincidence.

I hit the same two sectors with the same ships at the same time all the time. Almost all our trips are just 13->17 looking for motes and crafter materia. 75% or more of my trips come back with grade IV Competence materia. Our FC currently has over 150 of just that one type, and that's with me spending a bunch and trying to get others to do so too.

[AnimaAnimus]

Just a quick question that may have been answered somewhere but - 93 pages to go thru lol

I have been trying to open sector 18 for 3 weeks now, the guide says sector 17 unlocks it so that's what I have been doing. I have had 2 of my airships trying for both 18 and 21/22 with no success. I have tried various combinations of components (all airship styles built) to maximize surveillance, favor, range, etc and still am coming up with nothing. (my third ship goes to different sectors constantly, 16, 15, 14, 19, 20. depends on the materials or materia I am trying to find.

So what am I doing wrong? I always come back with an A or B rating and things look dandy on the reports...

[Arcticharm]

Just a quick question that may have been answered somewhere but - 93 pages to go thru lol

I have been trying to open sector 18 for 3 weeks now, the guide says sector 17 unlocks it so that's what I have been doing. I have had 2 of my airships trying for both 18 and 21/22 with no success. I have tried various combinations of components (all airship styles built) to maximize surveillance, favor, range, etc and still am coming up with nothing. (my third ship goes to different sectors constantly, 16, 15, 14, 19, 20. depends on the materials or materia I am trying to find.

So what am I doing wrong? I always come back with an A or B rating and things look dandy on the reports...

You're not doing anything wrong, it's just tough RNG. Keep going to sector 17 and you'll eventually get sector 18. As for 21/22, you'll need to hit sector 20 for those two.

[Arourie]

question i am new to the airship stuff, kinda inherited the fc and kinda confused, i've unlocked areas 17 and 19 but they are grayed on my menu, the airship is rank 5 with an invinsible hull and rest bronco, any idea why those areas are inaccessable?

[Highwilds]

question i am new to the airship stuff, kinda inherited the fc and kinda confused, i've unlocked areas 17 and 19 but they are grayed on my menu, the airship is rank 5 with an invinsible hull and rest bronco, any idea why those areas are inaccessable?

You need to have ship's Surveillance at 90 to be able to send it to those sectors. It also reads on the details of the sector.

[Malakai]

Too bad there is no way to calculate the % of what items are affected by what and what rules out the chances to obtain said items from the island. Like if materia cancels out housing item or if deep-colored crystals cancel out crafting materials etc. Since there is usually 4-5 different types of items 1 island can give you. Housing crafting mat, Materia, FC Workshop mat, Regular crafting mat, and Deep-color crystal/clusters. I don't think the actual normal crystals play a part since you always seem to get those 100%

[Nyalia]

Like if materia cancels out housing item or if deep-colored crystals cancel out crafting materials etc.

All chances in this game are independent of each other. There is nothing in this game where getting one thing prevents you from getting another. This game focuses on fairly simple behind-the-scenes mechanics, which is nice. Simple, meaning, almost always there's only one variable affecting a derived value, or one you can change and one you can't. Getting a second item appears to be related only to your surveillance and the sector's rating (or cerulean cost). Getting a better gathering rating (normal, high, optimal, etc) appears to be related only to your retrieval stat and the sector's rating/cerulean cost. The number of items you get seems to be only related to the wind and your gathering rating. And so on.

Don't look for complexity where simplicity makes more sense. It's what makes Yoshida laugh at us xD (his reaction to the favored time theory of atma gathering was hilarious - it was really just a 0.5%-1% RNG chance, nothing more, nothing less)

[Malakai]

Don't look for complexity where simplicity makes more sense. It's what makes Yoshida laugh at us xD (his reaction to the favored time theory of atma gathering was hilarious - it was really just a 0.5%-1% RNG chance, nothing more, nothing less)

Hard not to overthink these things tho, specially when you have people who are in a high demand for obtaining them and it feels like the game knows what you are trying to get. It's almost like how in FFXI when you needed the coffer key for your AF the mobs would never drop a key and you could spend 2 hours farming mobs for a key to finally drop. Then when you didn't need a coffer key for your AF they would constantly drop from every other mob you kill. Honestly it is rather frustrating when you have high survey/retrieve/favor and get SS ranking and the thing you get is the junk item(s) that has 0 value to it. You'd think the higher the ranking the better the rewards would be so that just tends to leading to overthinking about things xD

[Evangela]

My ship is rank 50 and only have sector 1-10. I kept doing 6 and 10 to unlock 11 and 12 but they never shown up. What's wrong with it?

[Malakai]

My ship is rank 50 and only have sector 1-10. I kept doing 6 and 10 to unlock 11 and 12 but they never shown up. What's wrong with it?

What airship parts do you have equipped on your rank 50? It's all RNG based on when it unlocks but to unlock higher area's you'll need higher survey. So if you are using Bronco parts still then switch to Invincible or Enterprise forecastle after making one of those and it should increase the chances of unlocking the next areas.