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    Bonzai - I edited my first post in this thread with some info. I'll add more later, like ship suggestions.

    Also, I've noticed a minor correlation between Survey and second items, but also a minor correlation between sector number and second items, which makes sense. However, it also makes the data hard to gather because as your Survey gets higher, you tend to hit later sectors, flattening out the effects of either change. Also, the Survey requirement of 90 for the later sectors forces the range of values into a smaller band. Also, the all-or-nothing nature of this further obfuscates the data.

    I guess we're going to have to, at some point, run a bunch of trips with a ship that has 50 survey and a ship that has 150 survey in some pre-17 sector.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Bonzai - I edited my first post in this thread with some info. I'll add more later, like ship suggestions.

    I guess we're going to have to, at some point, run a bunch of trips with a ship that has 50 survey and a ship that has 150 survey in some pre-17 sector.
    Looking forward to reading it! \o/ Sent you an email!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dancetwist View Post
    As your Airship moves away from the direct travel 'centerline' shown in black, your overall travel efficiency drops and you end up taking more time / Range to complete the trip! This can be really important if you're trying to make a lot of stops, but usually isn't a big worry if you're just visiting 1-2
    Wow XD Thank you for the illustration, that really helps! I've added this to the "quick tips" section of the guide. And please share any other insights you and your team come across, it is really great stuff =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    I guess we're going to have to, at some point, run a bunch of trips with a ship that has 50 survey and a ship that has 150 survey in some pre-17 sector.
    Well, just look at the Odysseus Logs - up until 2 days ago she was floating 1-7 with all bronco (70 all). Then i replaced the Forecastle and she went to 98 Survey/Favor Rest 70.

    Right after the Swap she got the two full 6 item 3-Sector trips. So Before: 14 Trips with never getting 2 items in all Sectors After: 2 Trips in succession with 6 items from 3 sectors.

    I know, still not enough data to conclude anything - she's otw to another 3 SC trip as i type and if she comes back with 6 items again i might start theorizing again what Surveillance and Favor actually do ^^
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    Dunno if you guys are still trying to figure out how to get S ranks, but ive been getting a series of S with 128 surveillance / 58 retrieval in gold tier sectors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molic View Post
    Dunno if you guys are still trying to figure out how to get S ranks, but ive been getting a series of S with 128 surveillance / 58 retrieval in gold tier sectors

    Hmm. 20 materias with sub-normal retrieval rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Hmm. 20 materias with sub-normal retrieval rates.
    Yea, this has happenend a few times, im starting to believe that having high surveillance might increase the minimum and maximum amount of an item you can obtain.
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    So I'm starting to plan my "endgame" for my airships, with four different types of airship.

    1. Speed - Targeted at getting mats back from any single sector ASAP, at the expense of quality/quantity. Good for basic materials we need quickly, or for repeat journeys to particular islands we want to farm for a rare drop. Quick Exploration venture.
    2. Quality of Returns - Targeted at getting the best things at the expense of everything else. Would go to specific islands and we wouldn't care how much we get back or how long it takes - we just want it to be really good stuff, so anything that increases our chances sounds good to me. Field Exploration venture.
    3. Quantity of Returns - Targeted at getting large returns back to us from any two sectors in decent time, but not incredibly fast. Good for things we're in no rush for, but need a lot of. Standard venture.
    4. Balance - "Jack of all trades, master of none, though ofttimes better than master of one."

    And here's what I'm thinking of going with... what do you think?

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    Oh, my theory on Retrieval/Surveillance/Favor is that they are akin to gathering/perception/luck. In other words, one increases your % for getting common items, one affects your chance for HQ items, one affects your chance for rare pops. Surveillance and Favor being linked to the same component make me think Retrieval is the Gathering, Surveillance is the Perception and Favor is the luck.
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    Not sure if it's been reported yet, but we just got Quickarm IV from Sector 18. I put the voyage up in the public spreadsheet. Don't have a screenshot cause I was on my PS4, but I think that was the last ??? on the first page from the first 20 sectors.
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    Double S Rank

    I had no idea this could happen but I just got my first "SS" Rank. Also... 66 Gathering IV materia. Good grief!

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