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    problem is the RNG factror for finding sectors is extreamly high i would guess between 25 and 50% of the equasion thus makeing anylisis of other stats extreamly difficult especialy since each person cant discover 100 sectors in order to provide a large pool of stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrna View Post
    To test the unlocks, we'd need a few people to scrap the workshops or find new workshops willing to do stuff For Science (tm)

    I'm totally willing to scrap but I'm fairly sure my FC would murder me (and they know where I live lol)
    Please don't. Seriously. It's unlikely to give any good data anyway - RNG is a proven factor, so one datapoint tells us almost nothing.


    Knowing the way things are generally done in this game, I expect each stat to do one specific thing. This game's systems tend to be pretty streamlined in that regard. I expect:
    • Survey reduces survey times (base survey time per sector visited is fixed based on rating, then reduced by Survey - going to verify this soon)
    • Speed reduces travel times (formula is based on Speed stat and total Distance between all sectors, excluding any Survey time)
    • Range allows you to visit more sectors that are further away (Range must be greater than or equal to the total travel distance + 13*(# sectors visited)
    • Retrieval does something involving the amount of items you get (May not be related to ratings - may be that random ratings modify the base amount, and the base amount is determined by Retrieval stat)
    • Favor gives you more bonus experience (higher per-sector ratings)
    I suspect the overall rating is not tied to any one stat, that it's either how well you rolled on the totally random chance rolls (weather/retrieval/rarity) or your stats vs the sector's star rating.

    I don't know what determines if you can get a second item, but I don't think it's Survey. That's next on my list to investigate...
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    [*]Range allows you to visit more sectors that are further away (Range must be greater than or equal to the total travel distance + 13*(# sectors visited)
    Actually, its very simple. When you scroll over a sector, you see on the right side a Distance number and a Survey number. You need to have enough Range to meet both in order to go visit.

    When the airships get back tomorrow morning I'll be able to provide actual numbers for what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Actually, its very simple. When you scroll over a sector, you see on the right side a Distance number and a Survey number. You need to have enough Range to meet both in order to go visit.

    When the airships get back tomorrow morning I'll be able to provide actual numbers for what I mean.
    Ok .. using the Bad Penny as an example ...

    Surveillance : 90
    Retrieval : 94
    Speed : 76
    Range : 94
    Favor : 90

    Now, because the Range is 94, that is the Flight Distance when I go to Deploy Airship. On the right half of the Deploy Airship window, you see several bits of information, Name of the Area, Time to Destination, Time to Survey, Distance to Destination, Distance to Survey, Conditions, and the map.

    The Distance to Destination, and Distance to Survey, are what are important. You have to have the Range for BOTH of those to be able to go there.

    Sector 10 : 19 Distance to Destination, 13 Distance to Survey. That totals 32 ... as noted in game by seeing the Flight Distance go from 0/94 to 32/94.
    If I opt to go to Sector 11 from there, that would be 28 Distance and 13 Survey, or 41 more Range required. I've got that, bringing the ship's Flight Distance to 73/94 ... and only enough Range left to visit Sector 06 (8 Distance, 13 Survey, would bring me to 94/94 Flight Distance).

    Selecting other Sectors as starting points works the same way.
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    Unlocks are one major reason I wish they would allow the workshop to individual homes. Even if it was just one ship, and not 4 (and no requirement for a light or full party), it would help a lot.
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    The second item confuses me personally, I see "2 surveillance levels sufficient" a lot in my logs when I get the 2nd item.

    The thing is, that showed up before AND after a forecastle upgrade. Leads me to believe that it's either "2 levels above HQ cap" which most likely means "you've passed the two minimum levels to get a 2nd item", or it's a display bug much like sector discovery.

    Of course thinking about it, I've seen " surveillance levels sufficient" as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrna View Post
    The second item confuses me personally, I see "2 surveillance levels sufficient" a lot in my logs when I get the 2nd item.

    The thing is, that showed up before AND after a forecastle upgrade. Leads me to believe that it's either "2 levels above HQ cap" which most likely means "you've passed the two minimum levels to get a 2nd item", or it's a display bug much like sector discovery.

    Of course thinking about it, I've seen " surveillance levels sufficient" as well...
    The "2 surveillance levels" thing has to do with the weather. That's part of the "no wind" message. It is totally unrelated to the second item message.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    So, after not unlocking a new sector for 3 weeks (yes 3 weeks *sigh*) i got Sector 4 unlocked three trips ago, Sector 5 two trips ago and today i unlocked Sector 6 after upgrading my Forecastle from Bronco to Enterprise

    the RNG is strong with this one *paints airship green* ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    So, after not unlocking a new sector for 3 weeks (yes 3 weeks *sigh*) i got Sector 4 unlocked three trips ago, Sector 5 two trips ago and today i unlocked Sector 6 after upgrading my Forecastle from Bronco to Enterprise

    the RNG is strong with this one *paints airship green* ><
    I was at 3 weeks as well. Really wish this wasnt so RNG (?) dependant. Hard to keep motivated if we never discover sectors anymore.
    Unfortunately didnt have your luck. Discovered one sector a week ago, nothing since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    I was at 3 weeks as well. Really wish this wasnt so RNG (?) dependant. Hard to keep motivated if we never discover sectors anymore.
    Unfortunately didnt have your luck. Discovered one sector a week ago, nothing since.
    I wouldve been ok with been stuck on 5 after having only 1 2 3 4 for that time. Its more EXP in one sector then i got on a whole trip all the time before... - now its even faster leveling up, and i hope it won't be that hard to find sector 8 for the second ship as it was to get to sector 5.

    Don't want to go too fast tho, crafting/buying the materials on my own takes 4+ hours playtime :x and there's still no quicksynth for all that Darksteel stuff i need q.q

    Good luck to you so you wont be stuck at a low rank for too long ><
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