Airship Guide

[Arcticharm]

Opened 15th sector from 13th sector (13-11-9) Invincible II - hull and forecastle, enterprise rigging and invincible aftcastle
And drop:
13th sector - Craftsman's competence materia IV (craftsmanship)
9th sector - quickarm materia III

Nice! It's good to confirm that tier 4 materias are showing up of all the right types

I made this and threw it up on the reddit thread, but was asked to put it here, so here's the parts list for the Enterprise in a handy excel form. Copy it to your docs and you can coordinate parts and update it in real time between you guys. Really helped us out in team building the ship. We would just highlight a row that we were working on, and then 0 it out when we were done.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wA8/edit#gid=0

Pretty helpful, is it safe to assume you only used NQ mats and that these are the full quantities?

[Kuraiholy]

Pretty helpful, is it safe to assume you only used NQ mats and that these are the full quantities?

Yeah, this is strictly a parts list before any work had been done what-so-ever, so it's your worst case.

[BonzaiFerroni]

Yeah I'm really happy about the type IV materias! I think your theory is right Waring \o/

In other news, I think I botched the design job on the new sector list. I wanted to have it in google docs because surprisingly it is easier to modify than the forum. The design seemed cool for the first sector but it does not scale well, too little information spread out over too much space. Design is not my day job

[illuminatislayer]

Thanks for the report
I\\'ve added this to the sector map, but my placement is a total guess :P Will you let me know how far off I am? Also, what forecastle were you using? I\\'ll use that as the basis for my "recommendation"

Looks accurate to me invincible 2 forecastle.

[Kielus]

Quick question. Is finding new sectors totally random? Becouse we have rank 40 ship and we can't go past sector 10 (rank 27). I just upgraded forecastle from Invicible to Invicible type II, maybe that will help.

[Enseric]

Quick question. Is finding new sectors totally random? Becouse we have rank 40 ship and we can't go past sector 10 (rank 27). I just upgraded forecastle from Invicible to Invicible type II, maybe that will help.

I think better forecastle will help. I've opened sectors 11-13 and sector 15 with Invincible II forecastle.
And I don't think it's totally random. At least you need to visit needed sector to open another.

[Arcticharm]

I think better forecastle will help. I've opened sectors 11-13 and sector 15 with Invincible II forecastle.
And I don't think it's totally random. At least you need to visit needed sector to open another.

There MAY be a minimum stat required to find some locations BUT at this point we don't have enough data to know for sure what those minimums are. Bonzai is currently experimenting with a bronco only ship to see if he's limited from finding any locations and my FC has managed to find Sectors 07, 08, 11 and 13 with only the Invincible parts (80 stats across the board).

[Aeyis]

It's not as simple as having a better forecastle helps. After our ships 5th orso trip to sector 07 we finally found sector 10, and we have had enterprise - invincible II forecastle for all trips.

[BonzaiFerroni]

It's not as simple as having a better forecastle helps. After our ships 5th orso trip to sector 07 we finally found sector 10, and we have had enterprise - invincible II forecastle for all trips.

Yeah, it is definitely not that simple. In fact, I don't think it is a simple as any one thing, it almost seems certain now that rng is involved. So many different theories have been tested, everything from what type of weather you get to what path you took to the unlocking sector. Although many people unlocked the sector after an adjustment of some type, it wasn't clear if any specific thing helped.

As for the forecastle, I think the main thing driving the theory is the theory itself XD Let's suppose that RNG is a factor. Some people have had trouble finding it, and so they get the recommendation to upgrade the forecastle. On the next trip, they find the sector \o/ this leads everyone to believe that the forecastle helped, when it isn't clear if it really had anything to do with it. The flipside is also true. Let's suppose that RNG and the forecastle are important, that the forecastle improves your odds but does not guarantee. Eventually you will find outliers who had an excellent forecastle and still really bad luck with finding a sector. This leads everyone to believe that the forecastle isn't important, when it actually does contribute.

If RNG adds a bit of "variance" to whether or not the forecastle (or anything) helps, we may not ever know how much without SE just telling us. The stats test that we would use is the chi-square test and we would need a ridiculously high sample size to test when there is this much variance. People can only discover a given sector once, so it isn't easy to gather data, and no matter what the results will be skewed (i'm actually thinking this fact would violate the assumptions of the chi-squared test, any stats experts out there care to comment?)

Either way, it may be a long time coming! I don't think it hurts to recommend the forecastle in the meantime, it gives people something to try. I just try to be sure in my guide that people know that we really don't know. XD

My experimental airship might help in this too. If I get all the way to the upper level sectors on just a bronco forecastle.... I think that would lend some support against the forecastle notion

Edit: if any part is guaranteed to help at least somewhat with sector discovery, it is actually the rigging! more trips in the same amount of time

[Jynx]

I'll just throw this out there I've unlocked sector 11 and still using a base Bronco.