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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    I'm having trouble unlocking Sector 8, and have been for almost two weeks now. We've unlocked sectors 1-7 and 11, Our airship is rank 27, and we're using two Invincible parts(Propellers and Aftcastle) and two Enterprise parts(Hull and Forecastle). I've been alternating voyages between just sector 7 or a full trip of sectors 7-5-6-3, when I know I won't be able to attend to the airship for a span of time.

    Is something going wrong? I feel our airship has adequate stats, and from what I understand sector 8 is discovered via sector 7, so I've been hitting that hard as I can. If we don't discover sector 8 in a few more voyages, we'll either have to say "screw it" to the second airship gained there, or miss out on going to sector 11 and beyond until the RNG is kind enough to us to give us access to sectors 8-10. Any advice would be appreciated.
    We're having much the same trouble as you. I've been out of it for a few days being sick but I'm gathering all our logs and will input. Like Yarem said, I think it's just harsh RNG and we just gotta keep combating it with more runs to the sectors. Keep after it, you at least have better ship parts than us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcticharm View Post
    We're having much the same trouble as you. I've been out of it for a few days being sick but I'm gathering all our logs and will input. Like Yarem said, I think it's just harsh RNG and we just gotta keep combating it with more runs to the sectors. Keep after it, you at least have better ship parts than us
    Yeah, beyond visiting the right sector no one has found the magic formula for unlocking sectors The surveillance theory seems very unsupported. I tried to be clear in the OP that it is basically no more than superstition at this point, but it might be time to take it out entirely, at least from the sector map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post
    Yeah, beyond visiting the right sector no one has found the magic formula for unlocking sectors The surveillance theory seems very unsupported. I tried to be clear in the OP that it is basically no more than superstition at this point, but it might be time to take it out entirely, at least from the sector map.
    Seriously, we just got our ship back again from another solo SC07 run with nothing to show for it. This has got to be our 5th or 6th run to the sector with no sign of SC08. Definitely getting frustrated. We're using a full invincible build and I know a number of people have said they had enterprise parts by now so perhaps it's not safe to scrap the ship stat theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcticharm View Post
    Seriously, we just got our ship back again from another solo SC07 run with nothing to show for it. This has got to be our 5th or 6th run to the sector with no sign of SC08. Definitely getting frustrated. We're using a full invincible build and I know a number of people have said they had enterprise parts by now so perhaps it's not safe to scrap the ship stat theory.
    RNG is massive here. We did a couple solo runs of 07 will full invincible, and just unlocked it. We changed nothing. It's just luck.

    I'm getting a bit discouraged by ship stats... I just did a weather vs Favor analysis, and it suggests that there's no correlation. With the two favor stats that we have over 100 data points for, it's exactly 10% no wind, 30% high wind, and 60% turbulence, for both 70 favor and 80 favor. That's across all sectors - the per sector per favor stat breakdown doesn't have enough datapoints, but looks like it'll converge on this 10/30/60 split.

    On the "plus" side, I can't find a correlation between weather condition and retrieval rating (normal/high/optimal) either, so... I don't know if weather actually affects anything either.

    I think Favor might be the chances of getting a "rare" item, but that's hard to datamine because of the issue mentioned above about how I wasn't clear what the "HQ" column meant, so I don't know how reliable the data is for that


    I suppose the next thing to do is to analyze overall sector ratings with stats, or performance, or weather. I just don't know where to start there - there are just so many variables!



    I changed the title of the sector unlock cell to be general notes about the run. In addition to unlocks, it would be nice to have the trip times if you know them so I can quickly map out the speed/distance/time formula. I'm curious about it.

    Thanks to everyone who contributed for all the data! We have 163 trips logged so far and 26 ships (18 FCs) in our database. Keep it coming!
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    3 parts enterprise + invincible hull
    S14 unlocked after S11
    don't remember where we unlocked S13 (top left) from, was a few days back.
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    Finally found sector 8... the little lalafell can't await to launch his own toyship tomorrow.

    Every-time i convince myself that the "bonus" theorie can't be complete wrong (found 2 sectors in a row after S ratings with my slow and short range explorer build where an equals distribution stats build failed multiple times) there are evidences which disproves it (like the 2 posts above me) . RNG can be cruel sometimes.

    @Altaworks Discovered it today after a short SC07->SC06 trip with Enerprise Hull/Forecastle and Bronco Rigging/Aftcastle maybe you can retry this ?
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    They mentioned before they're going to add in a way to transfer houses before or at the same time they release Ishgard housing, which I assume is specifically addressing keeping workshop progress.
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    I had a heck of a time finding sector 5. The only thing I can say is that it was after sector 02, and I had just upgraded my Aftcastle to Invincible when I finally found it. I had been rocking Invincible/Bronco/Invincible/Bronco for five or so attempts with absolutely no luck until I made that change. It's still probably voodoo, though.

    Meanwhile, I've found a new sector on every one of my last voyages (5-8) with the same equippage.
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    Also 5 flight credits for 3rd ship

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    Airship #3 unlocked!

    First time exploring sector 14 did it, also have yet to unlock sector 12 on map so all silver sectors are not required.

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