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    I'm sorry if you weren't looking for this, since I skimmed this extremely quickly. But I have confirmation of an S rating to exist, if you need it.
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    Sector 7: normal retrieval levels resulting in average yield: 21 Cunning III materias.
    Sector 4: normal retrieval levels resulting in average yield: 21 Guile III materias.
    (retrieval stats at 70)

    Rank 17-21
    Sector 8 unlocked.

    Seems my previous theory on that is incorrect. Didnt need to do a voyage after hitting rank 20 to unlock sector 8.
    Just like the rest of you I didnt get any message saying I unlocked it.

    Special rank up bonus I suppose? Might require visiting all previous sectors perhaps as well.


    Speed stats testing:

    [Sector 8 single voyage] (only the values shown in the log, didnt take actual trip)
    Speed 70-84
    In order to reach sector 8:
    5 uurs, 28 minutes -> 4 hours, 33 minutes

    Return time:
    26 hours, 28 minutes -> 24 hours, 3 minutes


    [Sector 7 single voyage]
    In order to reach sector 7: (Speed 70-84)
    4 hours and 17 minutes -> 3 hours and 34 minutes

    Return time:
    22 hours and 17 minutes -> 20 hours and 34 minutes
    **note: when sending it on a voyage it says 5 hours for a survey of sector 7, how does this factor into these times?



    [Full voyage 5 => 7 => 8 => 6]

    70 Speed:
    Return time: 48 hours 25 minutes

    84 Speed:
    Return time: 42 hours 18 minutes:

    Also: Rank 21 ship = 32 airframe capacity
    Seems like a linear +1 per rank increase.
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    So, first voyage after upgrading our survellience, we uncover sector 04 (going from 02 -> 03).

    This no wind message seemed odd to me - "No wind or turbulence detected. 2 surveillance levels sufficient for exploration." I've never seen that line before...
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    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    This no wind message seemed odd to me - "No wind or turbulence detected. 2 surveillance levels sufficient for exploration." I've never seen that line before...
    There seem to be three weather conditions that we've encountered so far:
    • Turbulence which results in "significantly hindered" exploratory capacity
    • Winds which result in "slightly hindered"
    • Calm weather (like you had)

    My theory is that it influences whether you will find a 2nd item node or not. Still not sure what it means by "2 surveillance levels", I wonder if we will see that change as time goes on! People have speculated that favor might have something to do with the weather conditions you encounter. Maybe its not a coincidence that you are seeing this for the first time after upgrading forecastle? (+14 Favor)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    So, first voyage after upgrading our survellience, we uncover sector 04 (going from 02 -> 03).
    Well that is pretty good support for surveillance being important for discovering sectors! \o/

    Quote Originally Posted by Meoah View Post
    I had Bronco Rigging, Forecastle and Aftcastle. Invincible Hull. Rank 10.
    I think there must be some RNG to this, we had steady C's until we upgraded our Aftcastle and then we had steady A's. That lead me to believe aftcastle was fairly important for higher ratings. This could be a fluke but then again so might our results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    when sending it on a voyage it says 5 hours for a survey of sector 7, how does this factor into these times?.
    I did a round of speed testing that looks very similar to your results. I came to the conclusion that an upgraded rigging and back-to-back trips would result in about 10-15% higher rate of exp, items, and rank-ups.

    I think I solved the sector discovery reporting discrepancy XD Today we discovered sector 9, and it told us about the discovery both in the flight log and after we finalized the report. I'm wondering if this is typical behavior, and there might be a bug for sector 8.

    Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.

    If you still have your flight log from when you discovered sector 8, could you look and see if it mentions discovering sector 10 instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroBoss View Post
    Hi! Thanks for the guide, we have our airship currently at Rank 17. In our last voyage we sent it to sectors 5 > 6. The interesting thing is that it brought 5x "Toy Box Schema" from Sector 5 (optimal retrieval level), as it isnt noted on the main guide, i though it would be important to share it It seems its a rare item from Sector 5.
    Awesome! I'll add it to the list! \o/ Did you find out what it is used for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post
    Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.
    We had something similar happening to our FC airship a few weeks ago.
    The flight report said "Discovered Sector 5", but sector 5 did NOT unlock.
    What unlocked was sector 4.

    I'm not sure if this is a typo, a glitch or what.

    I have submited a bug report using the in-game feature for that, hopefully they'll fix this eventually, because airship unlocks are confusing already as it is, we shouldn't have to deal with this kind of typos/glitches..
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    We had something similar happening to our FC airship a few weeks ago.
    The flight report said "Discovered Sector 5", but sector 5 did NOT unlock.
    What unlocked was sector 4.

    I'm not sure if this is a typo, a glitch or what.

    I have submited a bug report using the in-game feature for that, hopefully they'll fix this eventually, because airship unlocks are confusing already as it is, we shouldn't have to deal with this kind of typos/glitches..
    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    Oh, you're right. Ours says sector 10 too
    It's great to have confirmation XD I was doubting my memory until I saw my FC leader's screenshots of our flight log and double checked the sector map. I'll submit a bug report too!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroBoss View Post
    Btw in the flying report it says High-Quality Toy Box Schema so yea, confirmed its High quality item.
    Thanks for checking, I was curious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post

    Awesome! I'll add it to the list! \o/ Did you find out what it is used for?
    It's used as a component to craft "Toy Box", a housing item. Don't know if its useful apart from decorative purposes. I'll keep an eye on the guide and I'll report any "airship loots" that are not noted ^^

    Btw in the flying report it says High-Quality Toy Box Schema so yea, confirmed its High quality item.

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    Our FC is running a ship with all bronco parts except for the rank 2 hull. We're currently rank 17 and just discovered sector 11 with a silver icon on the map. This might suggest that it's more related to proximity and not stat related. Something else I noticed is that when setting up routes with the airship sometimes if I pick some high level sectors or too many locations it changes the color of the trip information and stars in the upper right hand corner of the menu. Perhaps because our ship component stats are so low this is an indication that the trip might not go so well? Has anyone else noticed this having an effect on the rating of the trip being taken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post
    I think I solved the sector discovery reporting discrepancy XD Today we discovered sector 9, and it told us about the discovery both in the flight log and after we finalized the report. I'm wondering if this is typical behavior, and there might be a bug for sector 8.

    Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.
    Oh, you're right. Ours says sector 10 too (I just realized you can view previous logs while it's in transit).

    But we've not discovered S10 yet, which you can see in the previous screenshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni View Post



    If you still have your flight log from when you discovered sector 8, could you look and see if it mentions discovering sector 10 instead?
    No mention was made of any sector being discovered. Might be different in the post log tho, I'll check on that later.
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