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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Chloe Li
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    Alexander Loot System

    Ok if I remember correctly...

    Alexander Normal = No loot Lock(can roll on multiple gears), Repeatable for multiple runs, and mid tier gear (either ilvl 170 or 180 gear).

    Alexander Savage = Loot Lock, not repeatable for multiple runs, Highest Tier gear (most likely ilvl 190 armor and ilvl 195 weapon), and Token system.

    is this right?
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    There wouldn't be a point to running Alexander Normal at all if it only had 170 and 180 ilvl. The tokens will allow you to buy 185 at the minimum, or 190.

    In Alexander Normal, every chest drops tokens. Not known how many. 1 token buys you an accessory. 4 tokens buys you an armor piece. There are 5 levels to Alexander, so potentially you can get 5 tokens a week (if you run it enough). You are limited to 1 token per level per week.

    Nothing known about Alexander Savage loot mechanics as I recall. Probably similar to Coil.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Esoterics will be between Normal Alex and Savage, (only heard this next part so can't say it is 100% fact). That Savage will be 5 ilvls over Esoterics. So maybe 190 Normal Alex, ilvl 200 for esoterics and 205 for savage.

    I dunno XD if Esoterics will be higher than Normal Alex or higher. Equal it will allow mix and match for optimising, higher will make normal Alex drops obsolete for main job.

    Lockouts, from what I can ascertain there will be a loot lock out, more in line with CT than coil. But with some form of token from each turn to hand in for the required item/s.

    But we will find out in a short while ^_^ May as well wait and see.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Esoterics will be between Normal Alex and Savage, (only heard this next part so can't say it is 100% fact). That Savage will be 5 ilvls over Esoterics. So maybe 190 Normal Alex, ilvl 200 for esoterics and 205 for savage.

    I dunno XD if Esoterics will be higher than Normal Alex or higher. Equal it will allow mix and match for optimising, higher will make normal Alex drops obsolete for main job.

    Lockouts, from what I can ascertain there will be a loot lock out, more in line with CT than coil. But with some form of token from each turn to hand in for the required item/s.

    But we will find out in a short while ^_^ May as well wait and see.
    I have a good feeling Esoterics will be equal to Alex Normal for mix and match. There's always the accuracy requirements.
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    I have a good feeling Esoterics will be equal to Alex Normal for mix and match. There's always the accuracy requirements.
    This would actually be how much of the hardcore "Raid is the way to get the best-level gear" crowd would prefer the ilevel system works.

    Law
    Upgraded Law
    Alexander NM : Esoterics
    Alexander EX

    Basically, EX becomes its own catagory. But that doesn't seem like SE's intention. They try to let everyone have multiple pathes to max ilevel.

    What I think is more likely:

    Alexander NM : Upgraded Law
    Alexander Savage : Esoterics (Please GOD no upgrades via hunts/dungoun drops...)
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Alexander NM : Upgraded Law
    Wouldn't make much sense to put something on a weekly lockout that's equivalent to something that's farmable.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Wouldn't make much sense to put something on a weekly lockout that's equivalent to something that's farmable.
    Hmn, a good point since you can only obtain one from each level per week for the trade-in, I had forgotten about that. x3 Thanks.

    So basically we're possibly looking at a "Step-based" system, where in Upgraded Law -> Alexander NM / Estoerics -> Alexander Savage is the steps, OR Upgraded Law -> Alexander NM -> Esoterics/Savage... Either way, it doesn't give much sidegrades per level, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Wouldn't make much sense to put something on a weekly lockout that's equivalent to something that's farmable.
    Except that they've done something similar before. But it wasn't farmable
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Wouldn't make much sense to put something on a weekly lockout that's equivalent to something that's farmable.
    Sands of Time, Oil of Time, Carbontwine, and Carboncoat would like to have a word with you.

    Before they "opened up" these items, you could get a couple of them each week from coil... or hunt your brains out and get as many as you wanted.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Alex Normal Loot System:

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