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  1. #11
    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Character
    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    With the old 2.55 BiS platinum penta-melded STR/VIT accessories, my WAR used to parry for 29% solo and 30% when in a party.

    Now it's a flat 20% regardless of anything.

    So imo parry just became worse.

    Raw Intuition (will parry every physical damage in front of you for 20s) is useful for physical tank killer moves, but it makes the parry stat even less useful than it was.

    We have very limited gear options at the moment, so for tank gloves for example, all ilv160, 170 and 180 have parry, which is sub-optimal for OT in most cases.
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  2. #12
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    PROBOUND's Avatar
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    Character
    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Safe to say PLD is 30 Points STR and all Slaying accessories?

  3. #13
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    Ragnorak's Avatar
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    Character
    The Tank
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Before HW I was doing 30 - 32% (in party) so yeah it worse at a flat 20% I don't think its worth it..
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  4. #14
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Character
    Leo Strut
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Safe to say PLD is 30 Points STR and all Slaying accessories?
    It's going to depend on your party's composition and gear, but every tank should be as much in STR and STR gear as you can do while still being safe.
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Reading Rainbow
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    While I never did any heavy end game content (I was ilvl 107 b4 hw) back then. I Can say that back then I Parried for a larger amount but no where near as often. I suppose that can be attributed to the flat parry rate increase from Defiance (I Don't think it did that in 2.0) But I like the change so far. I Feel that all in all it is More mitigation than I had before.
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    Anyway, all of the elitism is unwarranted. It isn't as if everyone here is PVPing to compete for openworld Raid bosses or anything like that. Heck, most of us don't even pvp.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6305634/

  6. #16
    Player
    Ditto's Avatar
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    Character
    Echo Sindria
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Parry feels no different than it did in 2.0, only now we're mitigating a few %'s less damage per parry.

    Warriors however are probably parrying a bit more often due to their new parry stuff though.
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  7. #17
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Character
    Kakita Ucalibur
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 86
    Parry is fairly important to the Dark Knight(More parries = more Reprisal/Low Blow procs), but of lesser importance currently to the Paladin and Warrior.
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  8. #18
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    Character
    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    It's still bad/ much worse. Don't bother.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

  9. #19
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Character
    Nel Synestra
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Parry and Skill speed are atm worse than before so crit and det are still superior secondary stats even with that small det nerf, and crit is actually more valuable now as it also increases crit dmg on top of chance.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Parry and Skill speed are atm worse than before so crit and det are still superior secondary stats even with that small det nerf, and crit is actually more valuable now as it also increases crit dmg on top of chance.
    Let's also keep in mind that all secondaries got cut 1/3 of 2.0 stat weight. So you need a lot more now, than you did in 2.0.
    So in reality Primary Stat>all.
    Secondaries literally have almost no effect on anything at their current levels.

    Stack STR, Stack VIT. Forget about the rest.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

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