Thread: Hi! Eorzean Adventurer here, hailing from Greece. Please don't cut off FFXIV from us!

Originally Posted by Spiroth

Hi!

I suppose you have seen what is going on in Greece now.

Greece made the bed it wanted to make and is now being forced to sleep in it. It's no surprise to anyone outside of Greece.

Do realize that if Greece is booted out of the Eurozone, it will probably become super-expensive to play MMORPG's due to the hyperinflation required to inflate it's way out of debt.

Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Greece made the bed it wanted to make and is now being forced to sleep in it. It's no surprise to anyone outside of Greece.

Do realize that if Greece is booted out of the Eurozone, it will probably become super-expensive to play MMORPG's due to the hyperinflation required to inflate it's way out of debt.

Please don't do this. You don't know what you are saying. Don't believe the propaganda and the lies of those responsible for all this.

Originally Posted by Spiroth

Indeed. As I said, European fake-democrats, and Traitor Poloticians are responsible. But really, they are saying:

"You will accept losing your independence and forever owe us money, or you're out of Europe".

Basically, they are threatening us to be slaves. That's not our fault. And I mean the peoples fault.

Of course it's not the "Normal peoples" fault. Well....some may discuss about this saying "but you voted for them in the election!!!" but i understand your standpoint.
On the other side you need to try to understand the rest of europe. It was clear waaaay back in....2008? that Greece is highly unstable. And it didn't take long until they found out that Greece lied to them about their Money Issues. But they put up with it. For whole 6 Years they tried saving Greece. But Money isn't falling from the Sky in Germany or other States too.

If MY Business Partner lied to me about sending my Shares to me...what do you think would i do?

Originally Posted by Hypie

Of course it's not the "Normal peoples" fault. Well....some may discuss about this saying "but you voted for them in the election!!!" but i understand your standpoint.
On the other side you need to try to understand the rest of europe. It was clear waaaay back in....2008? that Greece is highly unstable. And it didn't take long until they found out that Greece lied to them about their Money Issues. But they put up with it. For whole 6 Years they tried saving Greece. But Money isn't falling from the Sky in Germany or other States too.

I'll try and explain this to you. You are being lied.
In 2008, I was 20. I was being paid 1000 Euros a month.
We owed 120 Billion Euros to the European Bank. (Germany owed 1 Trillion Euros btw). But they kept loaning us with small interest.

Then, in 2009 they made my paycheck 700 Euros, said that it's for 2 years so we stop owing money. Then 600 Euros.

Every year.

Now? 580 Euros paycheck, and they DEMAND I sign to have 400 Euros paycheck, they demand to have the authority to overwrite our court of law decisions, to offer them our telecomunications, water companies, and ports. WTF?
My grandma gets 280 Euros retirement money every month. And they're asking fro a 26% tax. WTF?

All these after 6 years of recession program supposed to get us out of that 120 Billion Euros debt.
Do you know the debt today?


323 Billion Euros. WTF?????

It's not sustainable. The ITF said yesterday that they made a mistake from the beginning and the program was wrong.

Meanwhile Germany has made 200 Billion from our crisis.

Every 3 months, they loan us 10 Billion, then we have to pay them back 10 Billion, but also catch an unbelieavably stupid statistic. And when we of course don't do, "Awww, cut this, cut that."
Then they owe us 10 Billion again, but oooh, we have to pay 10 Billion again.

We haven't got a cent from anyone. Only lost stuff.

Originally Posted by Spiroth

Meanwhile Germany has made 200 Billion from our crisis.

Lol who did tell you that number: it was not even close to 1 Billion.

the first haircut alone did cost more then 100 Billion euros. That money is gone.
And the 2nd one is coming, that is 100% sure. I see a big red Number there already.
Where are your 200 Billion from?

this very minute greece current depts are around 317 Billion euros. How on earth would you even think that Germany made 200 Billion during the crisis?
There is no logic there whatsoever.

No EU country made or will ever make any plus since Greece is in the EU and won't ever happen. No matter how the solutions are going to look like.
That is propaganda at its finest.

And... you forgot the none-credit based financial supports from the EU over the last decades.that is 250 Billion (that is help that nobody has to pay back), how about that? - since germany has the biggest economy most money also came from there.
Before starting to throw stones, do proper research.

What do you guys expect?
Get better polititians, fight the corruption, don't blame everyone else for your problems. That is not helping anyone.

Even not calculating another haircut (which is bound to happen),
greece got more money from the EU over the last decades then it has depts right now.

You'll probably have bigger problems to deal with than FFXIV withdrawal should it come to that.

In all seriousness, I hope things don't turn out worst-case for Greece. Best wishes to you.

Originally Posted by CGMidlander

You'll probably have bigger problems to deal with than FFXIV withdrawal should it come to that.

In all seriousness, I hope things don't turn out worst-case for Greece. Best wishes to you.

Thank you. Best wishes to you too. And everyone.