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  1. #101
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    Fendred's Avatar
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    If everyone was doing what they were supposed to, how do you determine who should receive your commendation? Nothing personal, but a lot of us will choose at complete random if such is the case.
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  2. #102
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    Lyni's Avatar
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    Lyni Sol
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 60
    This is great, lets keep up the show.
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  3. #103
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    If someone is talking a lot in a dungeon they get mine. Even if they are superbad.

    Sometimes I give commendations to new players who after a few mitakes learn and improves.

    Also as a healer I get far more commendations than I deserve. Im not sure how many times ive used regen only and then threw a stone or two and then jumped about for a bit. And still got 3 commendations.
    Healing in this game is toi easy so I dont feel like i deserve them
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  4. #104
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Personally, I think it would be better to rework the commendation system to maybe a rating system. You can rate all of your party members out of 5. That way if you notice someone was particularly bad, you could give them 0-1 starts. Or maybe they were just OK, give em 3. Maybe they blew you out of the water, give em 5. Then instead of a count of commendations, you receive an average rating.

    As to Fendred's point, if everyone in your party did a good job, you could give all of them 4+ instead of having to choose randomly.
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  5. #105
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    MageBlack's Avatar
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Too true, but my point is that is irrelevant to DPS meters. You can still sound like a jerk bashing a healer or a tank, and you can sound polite when discussing DPS numbers. DPS Parsers don't create elitism. I've seen plenty of elitist players in games where there are no parsers (Guild Wars 2) and I've seen plenty of people who are not elitist using parsers (WoW, Wildstar and here).
    I was, in a way, agreeing with you. Parsers can be a useful tool but it has a lot of potential for issues, If there are problems now they will only get worse with using one. Not everyone uses mods and i find it kinda stupid to have them be required. i remember playing WoW and seeing people get kicked for not having "DBM". I feel that if some form of a mod ends up being critical to the playing of a game then the devs need to find a way to incorporate it into their systems rather than some 3rd party thing. If they have parsers, I think it would be best added by way of a personal parser, not seeing other peoples, only your own. You can go online or elsewhere to see other peoples DPS and the level, ilevel, and gear they were using so you can compare your numbers.
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    Last edited by MageBlack; 07-07-2015 at 02:31 AM.

  6. #106
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    Syll's Avatar
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    Syll Reve
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I don't comm anyone by default, only if they were exceptional....or exceptional compared to a terrible run that preceded that one.
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  7. #107
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    Lyni Sol
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Personally, I think it would be better to rework the commendation system to maybe a rating system. You can rate all of your party members out of 5. That way if you notice someone was particularly bad, you could give them 0-1 starts. Or maybe they were just OK, give em 3. Maybe they blew you out of the water, give em 5. Then instead of a count of commendations, you receive an average rating.

    As to Fendred's point, if everyone in your party did a good job, you could give all of them 4+ instead of having to choose randomly.
    Which will end up just like our current system, where a lot of people don't even do it. Adding in that it would take selections for -each- player? Yea, people are too focused or lazy to take that time.
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  8. #108
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    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Out of curiousity, if that was a post by a DPS saying something like "Which one? The heals who wasn't casting protect or the tank who never used flash?"
    Would he still be an elitist jerk, or is it only elitist when you point out someone doing crappy DPS or a DPS not using their support skills?
    elitist
    1. A person who believes that they are superior to others (and thus deserve favored status) because of their intellect, social status, wealth, or other factors.

    Basically, being a condescending douche bag over trivial things like "low DPS". Basically it's the arrogance that makes you an elitist jerk.

    If a DPS were being arrogant over a tank, like bursting full cooldowns before the tank even touches the mob and then goes "L2 tank noob trash", then they are an elitist jerk potential purposefully griefing.
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  9. #109
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Syll View Post
    I don't comm anyone by default, only if they were exceptional....or exceptional compared to a terrible run that preceded that one.
    I com DPS that do more than just their rotation.
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  10. #110
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    Chevrefoil's Avatar
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    Lucie Gage
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 59
    Uh....I didn't see where commendations were supposed to be performance based. You give a commendation to whatever party member you feel deserves it and you can use whatever metric you like -- or just be random. I usually give my commendations to new people to encourage them or to players who were polite/helpful during the run, especially if it was not the best run. Other than that, I just sorta randomly click on whatever name appeals to me.

    I don't commend people for being good at their jobs, just like I don't expect commendations even if I play well. The fact that you expect commendations means you don't deserve them.
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