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  1. #1
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    TheOneSena's Avatar
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    Frantz Vergerius
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 61

    Is it still to early for speed runs?

    I have nothing against speed runs of dungeons but when entering a lvl 60 dungeon with the chance of getting new people who have no knowledge of the dungeon and then going off pulling everything that moves...don't people think that's a bit reckless? Like if entering a dungeon and your decked out in full 180+ gear and you have a healer who is still using 58-59 gear because they just hit 60 and the tank goes off and pulls groups larger than the intended amount and causes a wipe because the healer can't keep up with the heals needed to compensate for the large pull. It's a 50/50 chance i know but you would think after 2 in a half years of being some tanks would give the new 50% a chance instead of going 100% speed run. I'm a monk and i'm just voicing the words of sch who has had run ins with tanks like that upon hitting 60. Personally i couldn't care less but when playing with strangers...at least ask.
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    You should be thankful you're on the official forums. In other forums, you will get downvoted to hell and people will tell you, that 1 week is more than enough to hit 60 and get full 170s so anyone still wearing 58/59 gear should either come as DPS or farm the daily Roulettes until they get full 170 before coming to tank/heal in the EX.Roulette.

    Heck, Reddit already is of the opinion that 1 week after official release, it is everyone's responsibility to read up on strategy and watch a YouTube video before jumping into the two EX Primal trials. That place works in a different time paradigm.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I've been healing the speedruns just fine...they started WAY early but they are survivable
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Heck, Reddit already is of the opinion that 1 week after official release, it is everyone's responsibility to read up on strategy and watch a YouTube video before jumping into the two EX Primal trials. That place works in a different time paradigm.
    One week? I saw PF's up one day after with the "know your s#%t or you will be kicked".
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    Siru Kissaki
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    This all depends on the group I think.

    But if you see someone has low ilvl or new bonus I'd say take it slow. No need to get mad over a game Not everyone likes SR.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    One week? I saw PF's up one day after with the "know your s#%t or you will be kicked".
    Those people will be waiting an awful long time then.

    I'm of the opinion that "speedpulls" aren't going to be viable until one generation of "tomes" gear goes by. Unlike ARR launch where people wanted full darklight just to WP and AK... you know the very same dungeons that give the tomes in the first place, it's still possible to get usable drops from just the EX dungeons. Hell in a single run through Neverreap at the bare minimum 142 ilevel I got 4 items for my job I was playing. That's something that NEVER happened in any of the ARR dungeons. That brought the ilevel up to 150. The first time through "The Vault" did something similar. The ARR dungeons you were lucky if you even got one item that anyone in the party could use.

    Like I think the "rare gear" drops from chests have changed in a way to actually consider the party composition. The only other drops during that run were for Dragoon (one of the DPS party members) and Tank. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. On the other hand... the SAME item dropped twice.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 07-05-2015 at 07:45 PM.

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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    People are already speed-running the level 53 dungeon, its insane.
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post

    Like I think the "rare gear" drops from chests have changed in a way to actually consider the party composition. The only other drops during that run were for Dragoon (one of the DPS party members) and Tank. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. On the other hand... the SAME item dropped twice.
    LIES! I'm fully convinced that healer gear does not exist in the dungeons. aside from belts, rings, and bracelets. And when they drop, its like "hey bro it's gear what are you complaining about". "Oh, I already had these from the last 6 chests in this dungeon".
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    LIES!
    LIES! +1

    My first ever tanking drop from the new dungeons was like at 59 or after I dinged 60. Not exactly sure but I had full quested gear for a very long time...
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    You should be thankful you're on the official forums. In other forums, you will get downvoted to hell and people will tell you, that 1 week is more than enough to hit 60 and get full 170s so anyone still wearing 58/59 gear should either come as DPS or farm the daily Roulettes until they get full 170 before coming to tank/heal in the EX.Roulette.

    Heck, Reddit already is of the opinion that 1 week after official release, it is everyone's responsibility to read up on strategy and watch a YouTube video before jumping into the two EX Primal trials. That place works in a different time paradigm.
    ppl who think this way may also need a real life outside of an mmo :P just saying but really ppl who think this way need to stay in PF and stay away form DF
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