SE: your deadline

[Laerune]

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I dont think giving them a deadline will work, you are only one of many. I do agree that these classes need some fixing, but I reckon SE knows this and as always they are silent. If Warrior and Summoner are a example on how fast SE will fix a class, then I think you might aswell unsubscribe. They will take their time with fixing the class and I think this is better, because both Warrior and Summoner are amazing right now.


EDIT: I read that some players think a PT server would have prevented this and this might be right, but as someone who beta-tested alot of mmorpgs, I can assure you that feedback of fans wont always reach the ears of the developers. WoW used to have (havent played since 2010) alot of class issues and Wildstar was broken as hell, but the developers never did anything.

[Dererk]

HIGH JACKING THIS THREAD.


Put a boost to parry while in grit on Dark Knight or I will unsubscribe.

Naw not really I like this game too much.

But really boost parry.

[Carson_The_Brown]

While this is true, there's something to be said of change for the sake of change, change that adds to current gameplay (SMN, DRG, BLM), and change that turns the design inside out with few positives (BRD).

Market research indicates that most consumers have no idea what they want until it is literally shoved down their throats. In fact, a good number of consumers would rather take a notably flawed product over a potentially superior one if they are more accustomed to the flawed product. You are totally right, change shouldnt be made because 'YOLO', but every so often you need to take a shot in the dark.

That being said, your statement indicates a level of serendipity on behalf of SE of which, given their history, I seriously doubt they are capable.

I should feel a little insulted to be compared for EA and Activision. My argument comes from having raided in other games and what raid design does to comps and group make ups. If you have a dungeon with one or two bosses that are designed to favor ranged over melee, raids are going to sit melee. If you have a dungeon with two bosses that are designed to punish ranged and favor melee, ranged are going to get sat and raids will stack melee.

Oh, goodness, no. I would never compare a player with a request to EA or Activision. Wow, that would be harsh. I would just urge you to consider Hanlon's Razor. In short, this is the first expansion in their first successful MMORPG (we don't talk about XI). We can't assume all of their actions are intentional or even well thought out.

I wouldn't expect them to have all 6 new zones accessible for a beta. I'd probably have it set in Sea of Clouds with NPCs that gave level bumps to allow the testing of characters in specific brackets (probably starting at lv50-52, then with a bump to 56 and a bump to 60).

As I said before, SE is a firm with a history of highly conservative system and narrative design. Many of their tactics concerning story gating havent been acceptable since the 90s. We shouldn't assume, at least not this early in the history of the game, that any of their laughably poor choices are made out of anything but reflex.

[LegendWait]

Not a rant, not a rage-quit, not meant for anyone in the community; only SE.
(... then dont post here?)
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Heres a solution: play another class.

Here's another solution: don't resub and don't come back

[LegendWait]

Here's MY problem: since expansion came out, the dishes are pilling up next to my sink because I play too much, I want you guys to send YoshiP himself to clean em up or i'll cancel my sub !

(kidding of course)

[Havenae]

Okay, first of all, you are not their boss so it's not up to you to decide their deadlines..

Technically... we're all just a little bit of their bosses. Without the players, there's no SE. So.. yeah...

But at the same time, true, it's just one sub. But that's not accounting for the people who might feel the same way and are planning to do the exact same thing. There uses to be a saying in business that's really been lost due to wanton greed.

It went something along the lines of,

"For every unsatisfied customer that speaks up. Ten more remain silent."



OP:

Do what you want. If the game isn't fun for you any longer.. then you should probably get away anyway. Ultimatum isn't going to work. Businesses really do not care about customer satisfaction in today's market. They want to pretend like they do, but as long as they're getting money from somewhere then it's really just a big "Fuck off" behind your back. They're essentially going to do just enough so that it doesn't drive EVERYONE off. They'll fix it, but it will as always be on their time tables and it won't be exactly what you were hoping for. It's just the way businesses operate today.

That's not to mention that generally, unless you're in the JP playerbase, SE really doesn't give two squirts of love juice what you think. Couple that with the fact that the forums are usually pretty strong with white knights (which is why FF Fans are generally seen as the absolute most obnoxious players in the rest of the gaming community (it's also why the majority of SE's games have dive bombed in recent years... It's kind of hard to improve your games when all anyone ever does is stick daffodils up your ass and tell you how greate even the biggest pile of shit smells)), so posting it here really isn't going to garner you anything more than scorn and ridicule.

[Xenosan]

Yoshi-P/SE themselves admitted they launched too much content in the expac/patch.

They bit off more than they could chew.

IMO they should have waited until 3.2 or later to release the new jobs. There's too much going on for them to address every issue - at least with quality fixes - in appropriate time. Had they held off on releasing the new jobs it would have given them time to get a feel for lvl60 gameplay and how the community was responding.

If they pull an Aht Urgan and create cheesey-easy zones and mobs for zerg-fest combat instead of actually balance jobs and tweaking gameplay - I'll be disappointed. That's my concern, that they start cutting corners like they did in FFXI.

[Elazu]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_japan_expo/

[NoahArks]

Omg, OP, please, no. That one loss of subscription will make them go bankrupt. Your whole 13euro's a month (Well.. I'm guessing you're a entry, so 10 euro's a month) is so important for the game, that without it, they can't keep the servers online.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Square Enix, you have a deadline. I have 3 weeks left on my monthly subscription. You have that long to: (a) fix the myriad problems with machinist dps, or (b) fix the problems with bard stances and mobility, or (c) give the community a commitment to do one or the other by a specific, reasonable date. (Waiting until after Alex is not "reasonable".)

Otherwise, I'll withdraw my subscription.

Never claimed to be their boss, never claimed to give them an ultimatum;

Actually, this is EXACTLY what you did.

Ultimatum: a final, uncompromising demand or set of terms issued by a party to a dispute, the rejection of which may lead to a severance of relations or to the use of force.