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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    This is the reason I lost my trust with SE's "Please look forward to it"
    I was supermuch looking forward to it, but since my fc has 6 active members and all with different timezones it's hard to put 4 together.
    And asking a random person into my house is weird to me.

    This was one of the things I was most excited about since most of my members prefer crafting to combat, and I only like gathering, so we would work together. But now we have managed to build like one upgrade or so because its hard to have people online at the same time.

    Please just change it and let all of us HAVE FUN instead of GATING us behind EVERYTHING.

    I'm sorry this just makes me sad and angry
    This is pretty much my issue... there are about 10 of us, if i make the last handin and 4 are offline and 3 in a dung we are stuck.
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    I've been told all the crafter don't even have to be in your fc. We have a large fc and getting 4 crafter is easy for us but I would recommend trying it.
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    They can be any level, so I think it's not too hard.
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    I understand the desire to deny certain content to solo players, after all, it's an MMO. But then then system should start to suspend FC benefits when the FC has less then a certain number of active players.

    For example when only less than 4 people have logged in within the last 30 days, all Company Actions are disabled. When less than 4 people have logged in within the last 90 days, the FC gets an removal notice that in 30 days their land will be taken away and re-auctioned. (Obviously, with other detailed rules to prevent people just grabbing someone off the street and kick them after 3 seconds.)

    If you're going to slap one-man FCs on the face, you should have prevented their establishment in the first place.

    And create instanced personal housing that doesn't have access to these FC-only content. Win-win all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    For example when only less than 4 people have logged in within the last 30 days, all Company Actions are disabled. [...] Win-win all around.
    How is it "win" to deny small groups something? When I pop a +10 gathering buff in my one-man FC, does that harm you somehow? Does my 15% chocobo xp bonus offend you?

    But yeah, you just need 3 crafter dudes in your basement to progress a stage. Gather all of the mats you need in advance, snag 3 random people from your friendlist or linkshells, and get it done in less than 5 minutes.

    I honestly think the restriction might be so that if one FC member contributes 90% of the materials, a lone player who only contributes the last piece of lumber doesn't get to hog the cutscene all to himself.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 07-06-2015 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    How is it "win" to deny small groups something? When I pop a +10 gathering buff in my one-man FC, does that harm you somehow? Does my 15% chocobo xp bonus offend you?
    No. My post is based on the big premise that Square Enix wants to deny certain contents to some players.

    Noting the premise that solo FCs cannot enjoy FC crafting properly due to a design put into place to specifically require more people, I argue that they should have put up that barrier to the content and saved people the trouble and the disappointment. Then provide an alternative to the part of the content that they don't mind solo players to have, i.e. housing itself.

    Of course, I'd also like to have my own housing with my own personal airship and so on. Definitely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    No. My post is based on the big premise that Square Enix wants to deny certain contents to some players.
    Ah, well, all good then. But yeah, the barrier in this case is really easy to work around, so it's not really a problem. I think, if you are the kind of crazy person (which I am) that goes to the trouble of grinding an FC to max, buying a house and workshop, gathering all of the required materials, leveling all of your crafts high enough to be permitted to do the turn ins, you shouldn't have too much trouble in luring 3 people into your basement.

    I've been doing it by inviting whoever I know that's online, and if necessary, snagging a low level crafter with promises of new HQ tools and some free shards. If you have the resources to run a solo FC, you have the resources to get people in your basement.
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    its so people dont just make a ton of airship parts n throw on marketboard i assume lol was already parts on market board for 20m in odin tho day 2 of expansion lol
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