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    Asheloux's Avatar
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    Rei Sekiro
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70

    Any other Black Mages annoyed? (2.x to 3.0)

    So I main BLM. I loved the aoe damage that we had. Our single target was okay but aoes...that was our thing!
    But now the entire rotation is messed up and Fire IV isn't even an aoe? It's like the whole point of the Job was to be ranged, casting, aoe damage and now it's just single target...which would be great but we can't move while casting so we essentially do no damage now.
    I think it'd be better if Fire and Blizzard IV did AoE damage...or if Flare wasn't nerfed. Most of the HW fights are full of enemy aoes and it makes single target damage nearly impossible without eating a ton of damage.

    I hear a lot of BLMs are switching to SMN...I'd like to stay a BLM but at the same time I'd like for things to change....or make our job actually able to do stuff again.
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    Last edited by Asheloux; 07-01-2015 at 08:11 AM.

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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    What i find funny is they nerfed blm's aoe because if was *OP* while also buffing summoner's aoe to BLM's ARR level.
    Fire Iv being aoe would be insanely broken. All they need to do is allow fire iv to proc firestarter and extend astral/umbral to 13 seconds.
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    That works too.
    I'd also like leylines to move with the character because it's totally useless in any of the HW content (which is the only place it can be used).
    It's like....drop leylines and move 5 seconds later.
    I almost never put it up because it's just a waste of time...I know I'll be moving out of it almost immediately and not going back because of the 100 aoes that will be in that spot.
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I like the new identity as the single target dps mage.... always wanted that, and I personally dont want that changed.

    SMN and BLM need seperate identities and having one do better ST and one better AOE is fine... I'd like to remain the ST mage though.
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    Rei Sekiro
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    ....if you want to be single target dps mage then be a SMN, not a BLM....
    SMN has always been single target. If you want to be single target then why did you go BLM?
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asheloux View Post
    ....if you want to be single target dps mage then be a SMN, not a BLM....
    SMN has always been single target. If you want to be single target then why did you go BLM?
    SMN is no longer single target. Bane now extends to all enemies in range (vs. three previously), Shadowflare is AOE, Enkindle is AOE (with a greatly reduced cooldown compared to before), Miasma II is AOE, Painflare is AOE and Deathflare is AOE.

    Not to mention each of the pets has an AOE as well.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 07-01-2015 at 07:06 AM.
    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

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    Xisin Fendada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheloux View Post
    ....if you want to be single target dps mage then be a SMN, not a BLM....
    SMN has always been single target. If you want to be single target then why did you go BLM?
    sorry man but blm was good at single target before 2.0, it was changed then... I could tell you if you want to be aoe then you should roll smn then no? Thunder -> thundara was the bomb.

    Honestly since you basically told me to go away with that post though I'll post more...

    Ley lines is fine as it is, you can move out then back in, no issues. You can complete a full enochian cycle in most fights if you know what you are doing. I parse damn well on ravana AND bismarck ex, so i do have the experience. It also possible to never have enochian fall during a fight or at least maintain 85%~ish uptime on it.

    There are problems sure, but nothing that QoL changes won't fix... the job should stay as it is pretty much atm it holds it own with ST vs melee and often does better with foe up. AOE is still strongish and flare supplements the rotation well if you know what to do with it.

    If you don't like BLM then roll smn... right? I mean it IS the aoe dps mage now. You have no right to tell me to stop playing a job I've been playing for years.
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    Last edited by Xisin; 07-01-2015 at 07:35 AM.

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    Zeo Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asheloux View Post
    ....if you want to be single target dps mage then be a SMN, not a BLM....
    SMN has always been single target. If you want to be single target then why did you go BLM?
    SMN hasn't really ever been single target... The 3 main DOTS with Bain, Shadow Flare, Miasma 2, the Egi abilities..
    Anyway, I feel you haven't figured out the new BLM rotation though.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I typically don't like for dungeon balance to interfere with raid balance (see: ARR SMN and MNK in dungeons vs coil), but I do think a small F2 buff wouldn't really make or break anything in raids. Maybe just 120 potency on F2 to help sort it out a bit, keep the BLM dungeon QoL on par with SMN somewhat. Right now I would never ever in a billion years go on my level 60 BLM for dungeons instead of my level 60 SMN unless I'm just fooling around.
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    Rei Sekiro
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    Soooooooo....they switched it and made BLMs useless?
    Doesn't really help.
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