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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    The first time I ever DFed with my very first MCH, I was on MNK.
    They used it for what seemed like every available CD.
    I wanted to -murder- them.

    That said, thats the only MCH I've seen do that.
    The only time I've used BLank in a party situation, myself, was when a (ranged) co-DPS pulled a wandering mob while the tank was grabbing a chest. knocked it away only to give more time for the tank to come back.
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    Nial Niffelh
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    i use it as a metod to lower the dmg the tank gets, basically i use the blank skill then i use the bind skill.... obviusly i do use it on a target what is not bein attacked at all

    on brayflox nm it is usefull to do that if theres no a job whit sleep on the second boss
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    that is a dps loss to not use Blank in boss fight and The Vault where all the mobs cannot be knock back
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    I see the talking points from Reddit weren't e-mailed out during the July 4th weekend, but that doesn't justify using such old canards.
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    Asuna Okawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    You'd welcome me then? I never use the knockbacks, mostly because it's annoying, but the other reason is that you need to be at point blank range. I'm shooting mobs, not hitting them with the barrel, so why would I want to be infront of the boss?
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    Faust Eisenhart
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 60
    They really do need a boost, though. It says something when you play your class perfectly and are being outdone by the off-tank. It's not that there's a ton of bad players out there; I mean yeah some but not everyone is that dense. The class just has serious, serious problems that AST and DRK don't have, so much that they're excluded from PF groups because their counterpart, Bard, does everything they do but better and with less convoluted fluff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.
    We don't all do that urghhhhhhh. I only use Blank to finish off trash or against enemies that can't be knocked back anyway.
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    Geo Stigma
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    Marauder Lv 50
    The common answer to concerns about poor class balance, the toxic end game community, and poor game design seems to be "Have friends"

    So, have some friends OP. I'm sure they would be willing to take you along even though the job your play is a liability due to poor balancing.

    Edit: Also forgot the "Make your own group" argument. Love that one. I'm sure people will be eager to join.
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ergumenus View Post
    The common answer to concerns about poor class balance, the toxic end game community, and poor game design seems to be "Have friends"

    So, have some friends OP. I'm sure they would be willing to take you along even though the job your play is a liability due to poor balancing.

    Edit: Also forgot the "Make your own group" argument. Love that one. I'm sure people will be eager to join.
    no, "have/get better friends" is the common answers to claims like:

    not being welcome to Extreme Primal runs or kicked from parties just for being a MCH.
    Class balancing has nothing to do with the need to play with friends or anything. i've not leveled my mch or played bard yet, I do not know where those classes are at 60, I do know the mch in my fc does some pretty decent burst damage. I was simply saying that waiting until after alexander releases to pull in any balance fixes is a viable solution, so they don't OVER-tune something and then are forced to nerf it later
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