Serious Concern, Need Help; MCH not welcome to Alexander

[PlumpyMcduff]

It appears as though SE will wait until after Alexander has been out for some time to make balance adjustments...

MCH is in a VERY bad spot right now... so much so that many (including myself) are not being welcome to Extreme Primal runs or kicked from parties just for being a MCH.

There's this anti-MCH behavior going on because the problem is that real.

Please, SE... tell me you'll buff MCH up to an appropriate place BEFORE Alexander releases???

I'm very worried, I'm told I won't be invited or welcome to Alexander as a MCH... I know I'm not the only one.

Developers, please help us?

[Galaticus]

All the Machinists will look up and shout "Save us!!" and Square Enix will look down and whisper "No."

[Traison]

Get a static. Cliche answer I know but we got a MCH in our group and we wreck RavEx and he's going into Alex with us on launch. They aren't bad if they are played well, from what i've seen of him (haven't pugged with any) I'd say they don't have any issues at all tbh; my opinion though.

[SovereignAegis]

In the great words of one of our most famous images....

In terms of Alexander?

[Tyrn]

All the Machinists will look up and shout "Save us!!" and Square Enix will look down and whisper "No."

Job karma for all the Blank knockbacks

[Derio]

One time I got 2 Machinists in my DR and it was the most painful, longest dungeon run ever. The burn was so bad I asked the WM to stay in cleric stance most of the time.

[Garlyle]

One time I got 2 Machinists in my DR and it was the most painful, longest dungeon run ever. The burn was so bad I asked the WM to stay in cleric stance most of the time.

I also had a MNK and DRG take so long against the Vault's second boss that no less than twelve rifts were open by the end of the fight; the only reason it wasn't more was that I squeezed out every bit of extra DPS I could as White Mage too. Bad players are not class-limited, and anecdotes mean nothing.

For Alexander (Normal), MCH should seriously have no issue so long as you're actually good at your job. Anyone who expects you're going to need Top Tier DPS apparently missed the message that standard Alexander isn't going to be too hard. Square have also said they're going to be paying careful attention to performance of jobs in Alexander to see if, or probably what, tuning they need to do to classes - hopefully balance changes will come with 3.02 and Alexander Savage.

The dev team has actually been pretty good about not leaving a class weak or undesired for long (Warrior, Black Mage, and Dragoon all come to mind from the 2.0 experience).

[lawlHT]

Fixing machinist and bard are going to take time, both to identify where the problem truly lies and to come up with a solution that balances the classes without overpowering them. Not to mention, actually implementing the changes takes a while as well. Expecting SE to just have a solution ready within two weeks is pretty shortsighted

[Evangela]

I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.

[Atlaworks]

They really do need a boost, though. It says something when you play your class perfectly and are being outdone by the off-tank. It's not that there's a ton of bad players out there; I mean yeah some but not everyone is that dense. The class just has serious, serious problems that AST and DRK don't have, so much that they're excluded from PF groups because their counterpart, Bard, does everything they do but better and with less convoluted fluff.

I'm not welcoming them anywhere if they don't stop using that knock back ability.

We don't all do that urghhhhhhh. I only use Blank to finish off trash or against enemies that can't be knocked back anyway.