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    BlaiseArath's Avatar
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    Blaise Destin
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    @BlaiseArath; Sorry but I'd have to disagree with you. You wouldn't introduce yourself to a static like that would you? Would you introduce yourself to a person of interest or importance to you like that? I for one would never do such things.

    So why should it be any different just because they are DF strangers? It's just common courtesy that people should have for each other even inside of a video game. Those people had done nothing to deserve that particular joke towards them from what I've read on the OP's part of this.

    I could see if he was familiar with them and it was a running gag as friends but they probably didn't know him from a hole in the wall so they probably didn't favor his humor as much as he seems to have.
    You're free to disagree and I appreciate you expressing a dissenting opinion, but I maintain my position though I can appreciate where you're coming from. The way I see it, not law, that If people can't take a joke its their problem, not the OPs or mine. I would announce it was a joke if it sounds like someone took offence to it, but I wouldn't apologize for it nor would I take it back. In most cases, Offense is taken, not given. If I have given no offense, they're free to take what they want but I won't apologize for it.

    This is mostly in regards to the OPs situation. There are clearly hurtful jokes that are in bad tast, and statements that may be far to overly insulting to be a joke and people hide behind "Its a joke" when called out... These types of things DO exist, but I'm not discussing a "slippery slope" argument of what could be said that would be going too far because everyone will draw the lines differently. Its about what the OP said, and its clearly not meant as a purposefully hurtful or insulting message.

    But to the question of yours, though It might be lost on some people... if I joined a static, its best to get out of the way that I am a quirky person who enjoys a joke, quip, or sarcastic comment here or there. I do try not to be directly hurtful because thats called "being a decent human being".... but If they can't handle a joke or two here and there, not always super "PC", then yah, peace right the f**k out I'll find a group who appreciates a good joke and can relax without taking offense to everything because they can't deal with the fact their favorite job might not be the best in the world. I played THF in FFXI for over 11 years, It was literally the red headed step child of FFXI, it sucked at about everything as was treating as a cheap whore to get more drops from enemies... Yah, It gets annoying dealing with truly ignorant people but when It came to dealing with some of the jokes/insults, I recognize the difference between the two, One I laugh at, the other I ignore. adulthood.

    Whenever I was met with a doubter of THF in XI, it just became my goal to show them how impressive the job could be. I never cried foul, I just became that shining example of what a good THF could be. I always aspired too at least, and looked up to those in the community doing the same.

    Still If you (not you you, but you in general tersm) can't take a joke you're not someone I want to be friends with anyway. I don't find good company with people who are the "Microaggression" overly sensitive politically correct type who are triggered by clapping hands, So in my eyes, if I made a joke and someone took offence and left? They did me a favor.

    I don't make insulting jokes as a matter of course, mind you, but I will make jokes, and usually, I get positive reactions. This isn't a bad thing and again I will say, OP, you have done absolutely nothing wrong.
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    Lillia's Avatar
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    Lillia Hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
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    Thanks for being so polite about it and I see what you're trying to say but unless the people are told that hes someone who likes to joke in that manner beforehand or this is expressed to them, they have no way of possibly knowing so while I totally get it I just can't bring myself to fully see it that way. However I still appreciate the way you held yourself in your reply and I respect your opinion as you respected my own.
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    Thanks for being so polite about it and I see what you're trying to say but unless the people are told that hes someone who likes to joke in that manner beforehand or this is expressed to them, they have no way of possibly knowing so while I totally get it I just can't bring myself to fully see it that way. However I still appreciate the way you held yourself in your reply and I respect your opinion as you respected my own.
    I will say, they are probably far more well-worded than I. I let a discussion heat me a little too easily and I definitely get a good vibe from reading their posts. That's actually pretty impressive, if nothing else, and just shows I still have a long way to go until I get to the level of competency I desire in my written communication. <_<

    I do agree with their feelings, in general, and find it to be very well-synched to my own. But perhaps I am too abrasive in how I say things.
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
    Worthless dross
    See, all that crap that went on in XI is the VERY reason people are right to call this garbage out. No Thief should ever have had to go through all that hassle just to improve their job. This has nothing to do with "being PC" or "Microaggressions" or any other psuedo-psychological nonsense term used by you and other people looking to justify acting like a high school Valley Girl. This has to do with unjustified job discrimination that needs to be killed off at the root by taking out the Party Finder feature that allows for specific jobs to be required for groups. That was a bad idea from the start, only serving to encourage elitists.
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