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  1. #1
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    2.0-2.55: People poking fun at dragoons(loldrg,tanking the floor,output wasn't that great), them hardly getting a raid spot because people favoured monk and ninja because they bring more to the raid group. Bards were fine because they had a raid spot no matter what because of their songs. As a dragoon this happened i see PF people ask for MNK/NIN

    3.0: Dragoon gets a raid wide crit buff people take them now its equal among the melee dps and people don't poke fun any more as often because potentially they could be top dps, bards are now weak but people still take them for songs and people poke fun at them now and have a hissy fit.

    In truth, right now all you bards are just going through what Dragoon went through pretty much all of 2.0. My static has a bard because even though their DPS isn't on the level of melee and casters they know they are still useful because of their support utility. People who say their bard are not support dps are lying to themselves you ARE support DPS SE just doesn't want to waste time building another option in duty finder which allows support DPS and adding a new colour for support DPS. Your DPS will never be on the level of anyone else and you just need to accept it just like how dragoons did in 2.0.

    Even I throw out jokes at bards now because those same people threw jokes at me so when they try mention me doing low DPS I just say "says the bard with low DPS" and they stay silent and rarely judge my dps again. After looking at all the people who responded to the OP are just bards who are mainly salty their DPS isn't on the level as other classes. So, OP when I saw this topic I laughed because in all honesty I have said the same thing "ew bard" but they kew it was a joke because they know their current position. Just suck it up and stop being so sensitive, if Dragoons can take all the jokes and rejection of not taken into raids im sure you can until things are changed.

    You can disagree all you want but my opinion won't change lol.

    Oh and one more thing...

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    Last edited by Remus; 07-06-2015 at 07:51 AM.

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    Lillia Hope
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
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    Not everyone judged Dragoon and not all of them was just Bards if some did. I like Dragoons and I totally agree with your post on utility and what not until the part with jokes on Bard which seems influenced from what Dragoon had to go through comes in, if you knew how it felt then why would you go out your way to laugh at another player misfortunes on here... I just find that horrible.

    You know, I think the people who haven't came on here to comment how bad off they were are the Warriors. They had a total overhaul on their job because of the issues people felt the job had and yet... here comes the Dragoon players instead.

    And so you know... in first coil when it was the only raid out back then. I also had a Dragoon player as a static member once and almost any kind of DPS was welcomed in runs I did if pugs were needed or when I was running coil before the static.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 07-06-2015 at 07:41 AM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
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    Last I checked, DRGs were fairly comfortable up until 2.4 when ninjas were introduced and FCoB got trigger happy with putting emphasis on damage values on fights...and making it magical damage. Nor did I see them being actively excluded or getting kicked out of Shiva EX for the matter.

    If anything, it should be comparable to warriors who got benched out of raids in favor of paladins until 2.1.
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    BigBossCL's Avatar
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    Habu Owe
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Last I checked, DRGs were fairly comfortable up until 2.4 when ninjas were introduced and FCoB got trigger happy with putting emphasis on damage values on fights...and making it magical damage. Nor did I see them being actively excluded or getting kicked out of Shiva EX for the matter.

    If anything, it should be comparable to warriors who got benched out of raids in favor of paladins until 2.1.
    You're not remembering clearly. DRG's got forced out of raids quite often in 2.1 Heck, DRG used to be asked to leave from parties doing AK because their DPS was so poor on Demon Wall.
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