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  1. #51
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Because weather or not they stay with the party is an inconsequential matter to me. If they choose to eat a 30 minute debuff timer + Que time because they decided to get their panties in a twist, well... That's unfortuante for them, but not really a thing that bothers me at all. They'll be replaced in sub-2minutes time with a DPS who doesn't bawl at the slightest poke.
    Dude seriously? What is happening now to bards and machinists isn't "the slightest poke". They're being ridiculed, insulted, harassed and kicked from dungeons simply for being the job they are. And then you come in with your "joke" of "ew bard", which to the bard says "yes I am another one of those assholes who will insult and harass and probably kick you just for being a bard". Can't blame them for leaving and taking the penalty rather than having to deal with that.
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  2. #52
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
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  3. #53
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    Can't blame them for leaving and taking the penalty rather than having to deal with that.
    Why can't I like your post 500 times? You've succinctly explained everything I wanted to say in one neat little sentence. You magnificent person you. Ahem... but yes, I'd sooner eat a penalty than deal with a horrible player myself. Jokes are supposed to be funny, what he said was not.
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  4. #54
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Why can't I like your post 500 times? You've succinctly explained everything I wanted to say in one neat little sentence. You magnificent person you. Ahem... but yes, I'd sooner eat a penalty than deal with a horrible player myself. Jokes are supposed to be funny, what he said was not.
    eh, different humors for different folks in my book. XD I have friends that chuckle at it too. In my book, people are just too sensitive. I do appreciate a bit of the better understanding for that sensitivity, though, but I doubt I'll change my typing style. <_<
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  5. #55
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    dragonkyn20's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kairo Fujima
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Keep in mind that bards are highly sought after party members when it comes to raiding. Hell, back in 2.0 when Binding Coil was the only actual endgame we had, people would pick mostly Bards because of how useful they were. Can you imagine how you would feel if a job as useful as that got hit with terrible bugs and nerfs? Not many people would grab you in that case. So not only is the insult in poor taste, but it's also a rather nasty hit to the ego as well.
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    If I die, forgive me. I used to be a Dragoon.

  6. #56
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    Muzetta's Avatar
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    Muzetta Riventa
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    For the very reason that my main job is made fun of, and me personally even though I do well and the people are just teasing me (Friends and FC members basically, havent had any random do it, ever). That's why I'm not gonna tease someone else for playing a job that's currently not optimal. They're still playing it because they like the job, and are sticking it out till SE puts in some changes. If anything I can respect that, because depending on how bad things are right now (I don't have a Bard or Machinist at 60, so don't know the specifics) I can't blame someone for temporarily dropping the job.

    As I said, playing Dragoon I have to deal with the "tank the floor" jokes all the time. Quite frankly I am getting a bit tired of it by now even though I know they're just joking and don't really mean it. But that's exactly why I'm not going to tease someone else for playing a certain job.
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  7. #57
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    -snip-
    self-depreciating humor is always better than something that can be taken as an insult. it's pretty much impossible to be too sensitive in the community we have, most of us have no qualms about dropping joking insults on the fly. It's more so that people no longer feel interested in giving someone who wishes to use a depreciating comment as a first impression the time of day.


    honestly i don't like the 'eww bard' comment at all, and i don't even main bard. the hefty damage nerf they got was out of their control, and their utility (as well as machanist's limited utility) still make them quite useful. i have never ran in a raid group without a bard, and regardless of their gimped damage i doubt that will change.
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  8. #58
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    QiLymePye's Avatar
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    Bloody Knuckles
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Can people please stop using the "Support DPS" Garbage. Show me anywhere in the game that says BRD/MCH is support DPS. Show me queuing for a duty and the open spots are Tank, Dps, Heals, and Support DPS. Lets start classifying other jobs incorrectly too. From now own we have tanking Healers and DPS Tanks. GTFOH. It's DPS. If you really thought they were support DPS, you wouldn't be quick to kick them for not meeting DPS checks, cause by our logic, no one else is meeting support checks.
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  9. #59
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    Bards and machinists are not in a good position right now until they get fixed but even if they were not there is still no reason for you to make such bad jokes at other peoples expense. Your bad joke and the humor you gain from it is directly related to making others feel bad about their class, no wonder people you insult in such a way decide to not stick around for more of it during the run.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 07-05-2015 at 08:39 PM.

  10. #60
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    Torunya's Avatar
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Are we still humoring OP with his entitlement complex? I don't see him learning anytime soon.
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